Worth ordering?

dollard · Post by **dollard** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:20 am

My first post so I hope I'm in the right area.
I searched for a death on ScotlandsPeople and found an individual that I would like more information on.
The search gives the date of his death, name, sex, age and GROS data but District and City/County are both blank. For image it says "no image". It seems that I can click on order but this will cost me 10 pounds. I wonder if there is anything to order as there is no image and there are 2 blanks? I wonder if this means that no more information is to be had (parents, informant,etc.) or the blanks just weren't filled in and they didn't make an image.

Post by **AndrewP** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:27 am

Hi Dollard,

Welcome to TalkingScot.

Are you looking at a pre-1855 event? If so, these records are the from the Old Parochial Registers (OPRs). The images are not yet available on ScotlandsPeople. The indexes are there for the births (or more commonly baptisms) and marriages (more commonly proclamations of banns). These images are hoped to be available later on this year. In the meantime, you can spend £10, or you can view the microfilm at your nearest LDS Family History Centre (you will probably have to order it in, for less than £10).

If it is 1855 onwards you are looking at, what is the GROS data for the certificate?

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

dollard · Post by **dollard** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:44 am

Oops Andrew. I should have posted the date-1864.

Post by **AndrewP** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:53 am

Hi Dollard,

For 1864, I would have expected the image to be there. What is the GROS data? (there may be a clue to be had there).

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

dollard · Post by **dollard** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:52 am

Gros data-622/2X 0029

Post by **AndrewP** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:58 am

Hi Dollard,

622-2X : the clue is there, the "X". The registration books appended with X are supplementary books. That means that the book of birth, marriage or death certificates supplied for that year in that registration district was filled up, and a supplementary book was supplied for the remaining births, marriages or deaths in that year. These certificates, instead of continuing in the number sequence already used in that registration district, started at one again, thus giving two certificates numbrered "1", "2", "3" etc. These has not been successfully indexed on ScotlandsPeople so far.

If you order the certificate from SP, you will find it is a standard certificate with all the standard information on it. The problem is not with the certificate, but with the indexing.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:56 am

For anyone visiting New Register House in Edinburgh it appears that the problem of referencing these images unambigoously on the internal DIGROS computer system at NRH has been solved. A couple of weeks ago I was expecting to have to get the microfiches and transcribe a couple of such register entries, but the images were available on screen with photocopies at the standard 50p !!

Let's hope that an equivalent solution can be offered on the SP site in the near future. In the interim I'd suggest submitting a contact form, and, you never know, they might decide that it would be reasonable to post you a photocopy......... If you don't ask .............

David

dollard · Post by **dollard** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:49 pm

Thanks David and Andrew. Interesting. I've sent a message off to them and will see what they say.

ninatoo · Post by **ninatoo** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:49 am

Dollard, what was the response from SP? I have a very similar situation here.

Nina

dollard · Post by **dollard** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:01 am

Their response was;...to see what you would expect to see on an extract click on this link. The link was just a generic description. I replied that that wasn't my question and I never heard back from them.