Military Uniform.....

[Linda Malpass]

I have uploaded a picture, when it is approved, can someone tell me what military uniform this is

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-496

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

[DavidWW]

I have uploaded a picture, when it is approved, can someone tell me what military uniform this is

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-496

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

If you look carefully at the sporran you can see what is probably the caberfeidh badge of the Gordon Highlanders. The hat and sporran also match what was worn by the Gordons.

But what was a man from the south of Ayrshire doing in the Gordons?

David

[Linda Malpass]

I have uploaded a picture, when it is approved, can someone tell me what military uniform this is

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-496

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

If you look carefully at the sporran you can see what is probably the caberfeidh badge of the Gordon Highlanders. The hat and sporran also match what was worn by the Gordons.

But what was a man from the south of Ayrshire doing in the Gordons?

David

Thanks David, I would never have known, my aunt thought it was the Black Watch ......... I think this picture was taken around 1912, I believe that is my grandfather, Alexander McCracken on the right, he came to Canada in 1913. The others are probably his brothers, they were all living at Burnfoot Rows, New Cumnock ......

[DavidWW]

Linda

As far as I could tell y'day only 4 Scottish regiments had that style of hat, - KOSB, Gordons, RHF and Royal Scots. The KOSB and RHF were not kilted regiments (apart from their pipes and drums), - they wore trews, as I think did the Royal Scots, which leaves the Gordons, and, as I wrote, I think that the sporran badge is the caberfeidh.

The only problem with that logic is that it may have been the case that the style of headwear changed over time ...............

David

[DavidWW]

Linda

Came across something this morning which leads me to revise my opinion, in the sense that the regiment could be the Gordons or the Seaforths.

David

[Jack]

Hi David,
I think you're right with the Seaforths.
I've a studio photo of 10 men in suits, plus one soldier wearing an identical uniform (i'm still trying to identify the men).
Exactly the same jacket, cuffs, kilt tartan, spats, sporran - the lot; only the cap badge is hidden.
(the sporran is slightly shorter, but as he wasn't a tall man, maybe he's trimmed it?)

The photie is quite clear, and using my dad's useful wee textile magnifying glass, i'd say that the,
sporran badge is the same shape as No. [233Sil] The Seaforth Highlanders (72nd/78th).
Not the shape of 233 just above it on this page - http://www.egframes.co.uk/scotdiv.htm

The belt buckle is round with an outer ring having writing written in a circle round it (very similar to the old BB buckle).
But i'll make a guess that the round centre has in it a lion atop a King's crown (would that make sense?).
Jack
ps, this soldier also had a medal with 3 clasps on the ribbon which is darkish? in colour with a light vertical stripe near each edge.
(does that help any?)

[DavidWW]

Hi David,
I think you're right with the Seaforths.

Ah wisnae that pleased wi masel when I realised the Seaforth conection to the caberfeidh badge ..............

I've a studio photo of 10 men in suits, plus one soldier wearing an identical uniform (i'm still trying to identify the men).
Exactly the same jacket, cuffs, kilt tartan, spats, sporran - the lot; only the cap badge is hidden.
(the sporran is slightly shorter, but as he wasn't a tall man, maybe he's trimmed it?)

Ah widnae be that worrit about a shorter sporran, - the length of the of one in the image that initiated this thread appears to me to be unusually long, verging on the excessively so ............

The photie is quite clear, and using my dad's useful wee textile magnifying glass, i'd say that the,
sporran badge is the same shape as No. [233Sil] The Seaforth Highlanders (72nd/78th).
Not the shape of 233 just above it on this page - http://www.egframes.co.uk/scotdiv.htm

Sounds interesting ................

The belt buckle is round with an outer ring having writing written in a circle round it (very similar to the old BB buckle).
But i'll make a guess that the round centre has in it a lion atop a King's crown (would that make sense?).

I'm not that much of an expert on the uniforms of Scottish regiments !! I was just fascinated by what www sites that I could access in terms of this post so that, very selfishly , I decided to see what I could do in terms of my own knowledge as regards the identification of the regiment .

Jack
ps, this soldier also had a medal with 3 clasps on the ribbon which is darkish? in colour with a light vertical stripe near each edge.
(does that help any?)

Could well do so in terms of the likely campaign medals and associated possible clasps involved.

Bullet bitten, - image sent to a "real" expert for his comments

David

[DavidWW]

I have uploaded a picture, when it is approved, can someone tell me what military uniform this is

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-496

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

Linda

What's your best estimate regarding the date of this photie ?

David

[Linda Malpass]

I have uploaded a picture, when it is approved, can someone tell me what military uniform this is

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-496

Gallery URL added - AndrewP

Linda

What's your best estimate regarding the date of this photie ?

David

Thanks David and Jack for the info, Colin Campbell, the photographer, advertised his business in the Cumnock newspaper 1893 - 1900. I think this picture was taken around 1910 to 1912, I believe that is my grandfather on the right, and he came to Canada in 1913.

Linda

[Linda Malpass]

Hi David,
I think you're right with the Seaforths.
I've a studio photo of 10 men in suits, plus one soldier wearing an identical uniform (i'm still trying to identify the men).
Exactly the same jacket, cuffs, kilt tartan, spats, sporran - the lot; only the cap badge is hidden.
(the sporran is slightly shorter, but as he wasn't a tall man, maybe he's trimmed it?)

The photie is quite clear, and using my dad's useful wee textile magnifying glass, i'd say that the,
sporran badge is the same shape as No. [233Sil] The Seaforth Highlanders (72nd/78th).
Not the shape of 233 just above it on this page - http://www.egframes.co.uk/scotdiv.htm

The belt buckle is round with an outer ring having writing written in a circle round it (very similar to the old BB buckle).
But i'll make a guess that the round centre has in it a lion atop a King's crown (would that make sense?).
Jack
ps, this soldier also had a medal with 3 clasps on the ribbon which is darkish? in colour with a light vertical stripe near each edge.
(does that help any?)

Jack, thank you for this info, I cannot locate the medal, whereabouts is it in this photo. I have 2 McCracken men from Cumnock that I cannot locate after 1901 census, no death, no marriage ..... so I wonder if they died in the war, hence this photo .....

I have another photo of military uniforms, this one is of John Hyslop, also from Cumnock. It is a postcard picture, looks like it was postmarked from Belgium Maybe you could help me with this one too, I will post it separately.

Linda

Linda