77 year old adoption mystery solved
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77 year old adoption mystery solved
Hi all,
Just thought i would share this success story with you. My father was born in 1932 and died in 1995. He was adopted shortly after his birth, but throughout his life, he never expressed an interest in who his birth parents were or ever tried to find out who they were. (It would have been very easy for him to visit Park Circus registery with his birth certificate....but he just never did) After he died, i took it upon myself to try and find out who his birth parents were. My mother always suspected that his adoptive mother's sister, might have been his "real" mother, but this proved to be not the case and resulted in a lot of time wasting and dead-ends. At the start of this year, I upped the ante and spent many an afternoon at GROS,Park Circus and online to Scotlands People etc. I contacted Birth-Link who advised me that since my father was deceased, I had no right to be able to view his original birth certificate.....BUT...i could write to the court that was involved with the adoption, and ask if I could view it for medical reasons. I proceeded to send the same letter, every 2 weeks to Hamilton Sheriff Court, for about 3 months, stating that I was getting married in July and I wished to view my fathers birth certificate, as my fathered suffered from a heart condition and a mental illness and that I felt it was my right to know if these medical conditions ran through his family.
Three months after sending the 1st letter to the court, I got a phone call from them to confim from that the Sheriff Clerk had looked at my case and considered my appeal to view the birth certificate....I was asked if I could come in person later that week.
I was understandably hyper, on the morning of my visit to the Sheriff Clerk's office. On a arrival I met a lovely helpful girl who took me into a large empy, conference room. She left me alone for 5 minutes, then she returned with a brown envelope. She was very trusting and mearly said that "photograghs and photocopying were forbidden". She then left the room and left me alone with this 77 year-old brown envelope with a beige ribbon tied round it. The envelope itself looked fairly new at first glance, but opening it revealed documentation helt together by rusty paper clips.
The enevelope contained my father's birth certificate stating his real name and his mothers name, address and age. As he was illigitimate, no father was mentioned on the certificate, but an old lawyers letter was also in the envelope that stated his bith fathers name and employer (no age, or address)
Now that i had his mothers name, I trawled through the on-line records at Park Circus and Scotlands people and found out that his mother got married in 1943 and had 2 children. Unfortunately, I couldnt find out when his mother died, so I assumed that she must have moved out of Scotland. I went on to Genes Reunited and.....to cut a long story short...made contact with my father's mother's grandson, who is 8 years younger than me. 3 days befor I got married in July, I met my father's mother's son (his half brother) and I have also been in contact through e-mail with my father's mother's daughter. (his half sister)
....but the best part of it all is....about 2 months ago ........I met my father's mother!!! She is 98 years old, but unfortunately suffers from dementia, so she Is not able to remember anything. She had a huge secret which she kept from everyone for so long.
Persistence and perseverence does pay off folks.
Just thought i would share this success story with you. My father was born in 1932 and died in 1995. He was adopted shortly after his birth, but throughout his life, he never expressed an interest in who his birth parents were or ever tried to find out who they were. (It would have been very easy for him to visit Park Circus registery with his birth certificate....but he just never did) After he died, i took it upon myself to try and find out who his birth parents were. My mother always suspected that his adoptive mother's sister, might have been his "real" mother, but this proved to be not the case and resulted in a lot of time wasting and dead-ends. At the start of this year, I upped the ante and spent many an afternoon at GROS,Park Circus and online to Scotlands People etc. I contacted Birth-Link who advised me that since my father was deceased, I had no right to be able to view his original birth certificate.....BUT...i could write to the court that was involved with the adoption, and ask if I could view it for medical reasons. I proceeded to send the same letter, every 2 weeks to Hamilton Sheriff Court, for about 3 months, stating that I was getting married in July and I wished to view my fathers birth certificate, as my fathered suffered from a heart condition and a mental illness and that I felt it was my right to know if these medical conditions ran through his family.
Three months after sending the 1st letter to the court, I got a phone call from them to confim from that the Sheriff Clerk had looked at my case and considered my appeal to view the birth certificate....I was asked if I could come in person later that week.
I was understandably hyper, on the morning of my visit to the Sheriff Clerk's office. On a arrival I met a lovely helpful girl who took me into a large empy, conference room. She left me alone for 5 minutes, then she returned with a brown envelope. She was very trusting and mearly said that "photograghs and photocopying were forbidden". She then left the room and left me alone with this 77 year-old brown envelope with a beige ribbon tied round it. The envelope itself looked fairly new at first glance, but opening it revealed documentation helt together by rusty paper clips.
The enevelope contained my father's birth certificate stating his real name and his mothers name, address and age. As he was illigitimate, no father was mentioned on the certificate, but an old lawyers letter was also in the envelope that stated his bith fathers name and employer (no age, or address)
Now that i had his mothers name, I trawled through the on-line records at Park Circus and Scotlands people and found out that his mother got married in 1943 and had 2 children. Unfortunately, I couldnt find out when his mother died, so I assumed that she must have moved out of Scotland. I went on to Genes Reunited and.....to cut a long story short...made contact with my father's mother's grandson, who is 8 years younger than me. 3 days befor I got married in July, I met my father's mother's son (his half brother) and I have also been in contact through e-mail with my father's mother's daughter. (his half sister)
....but the best part of it all is....about 2 months ago ........I met my father's mother!!! She is 98 years old, but unfortunately suffers from dementia, so she Is not able to remember anything. She had a huge secret which she kept from everyone for so long.
Persistence and perseverence does pay off folks.
Researching the Hayes and Pattison families that lived in and around Anderston Glasgow, 1840s to 1950s.
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Re: 77 year old adoption mystery solved
Wow! Well done...but I have to ask...how did they react when you contacted them?
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Totally shocked and a wee bit in denial (they had no idea and knew ABSOLUTELY nothing of this), although they quickly accepted the facts. If some revelation about my wee mum came as a bolt out of the blue, I'm sure that I would have did the same! They have been very nice and we have become quite friendly. Its amazing when old photos are compared between us and the family likeness becomes apparent.ninatoo wrote:Wow! Well done...but I have to ask...how did they react when you contacted them?
Illigitimacy brought shame and disgrace in days of old, so these things were hushed up and fotgotten about
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Re: 77 year old adoption mystery solved
=D> =D> Congratulations and well done. So glad that your determination has had such a positive result. I'm sure you are still up in the clouds!
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Re: 77 year old adoption mystery solved
I presume they where of no connection to the family that brought your father up as first suspected?
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No, there is no connection between the families that I am aware of. Unfortunately, I am unable to trace my father's birth father. He has too common a name and I virtually know nothing about him (see earlier post viewtopic.php?f=1&t=14475)Andrew C. wrote:I presume they where of no connection to the family that brought your father up as first suspected?
One thing that does puzzle me is that my father was born to a woman who was a devout catholic, yet his adoptive parents are Church of Scotland. My mum says that in the olden days a catholic child wouldve been adopted by a catholic family and vice versa....perhaps there was a connection between the families??
Researching the Hayes and Pattison families that lived in and around Anderston Glasgow, 1840s to 1950s.
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Re: 77 year old adoption mystery solved
Scott once a Mother has signed adoption papers she has no say where her child goes.Whilst some did try to match a child up using similar backgrounds/appearance etc sometimes it was just a case of taking what was avaiable-nowadays there are more prospective parents chasing possible children.
I suposse that's why so many Mothers used religious agencies to handle their adoptions then.
I suposse that's why so many Mothers used religious agencies to handle their adoptions then.
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Re: 77 year old adoption mystery solved
Thats both amazing and a real inspiration for me to solve and persevere with family search, thanks for sharing that i have a friend who will find the viewing of adoptee's birth certificate due to medical reasons really useful.
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It would be very useful Lynne Katherine, if your friend "laid it on pretty thick" with regards to the medical reasons. There are a lot of local authority jobs-worths around so your friend will need a lot of perseverence and persuasion also! Best of luck!lynne kathrine wrote:Thats both amazing and a real inspiration for me to solve and persevere with family search, thanks for sharing that i have a friend who will find the viewing of adoptee's birth certificate due to medical reasons really useful.
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Re: 77 year old adoption mystery solved
Just a note for anyone who is searching in a similar way:
Best wishes
Lesley
If you know the original name of the person who was later adopted and the date of birth, there is nothing at all to stop you going to New Register House, or Park Circus and looking up the original birth entry. If you do not know the original name, then obviously this is not an option. Also, often the court records will hold much more than just the birth details e.g. a written medical report on the child, some info about the biological mother and/or father, and the signed forms,signed by those putting the child up for adoption, completing the legal adoption. Each record is likely to vary so some may hold more, some may hold less.who advised me that since my father was deceased, I had no right to be able to view his original birth certificate.....BUT...i could write to the court that was involved with the adoption, and ask if I could view it for medical reasons.
Best wishes
Lesley