looking for a dock labourer??

karen kozak · Post by **karen kozak** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:28 am

was wondering how to go about finding out about a dock labourer??
In 1861 Archibald Begley unmarried 18 was listed as a dock labourer, and was born in Glasgow and was still living with his mother Isabella McArthur/Begley..
I cannot find anything on him after this?? can anyone help

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:50 am

Hi Karen

Hmmmm.....where were they living in 1861? I didn't immediately see Archibald in the index

I did however find a possible death for his mother in 1869 but it was at the Barnhill Poorhouse so he wasn't informant for it.....but then there is also a longshot that could be a death for him in 1869 in High Church.... but this chap was single and a hammerman but age was within reason. If I knew the previous address it might confirm or discredit this last choice. If that fails to produce results then it's a longshot there might have been a poor relief app for the lady who died at Barnhill....

Best wishes
Jean

karen kozak · Post by **karen kozak** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:47 am

apparently the address was 15 McAlpine Street anderson.that was the 1861 census there was also a cousin living with them.. I hope this helps..thanks Karen

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:55 am

Hi Karen

Sad news then...looks like Archie died in 1869.....and maybe his mum too...

When nothing came up for him in the 1871 census I searched for a death using wildcards and an age range of:

You searched for: Surname: "B*G*"; Use Soundex: Off; Forename: "ARCHIBALD*"; Sex: "Male"; Year From: 1861; Year To: 1871;

That returns 27 possibles but really far fetched surnames because I left it so wide open....however nestled in the list was this one...

1869 BEGLIE ARCHIBALD M 27 HIGH CHURCH GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/02 1268

The usual address for him was McAlpine St.

Now the other death for who was possibly his mum I once again left wide open with wildcards as this:

You searched for: Surname: "B*G*Y"; Use Soundex: Off; Forename: "*BEL**"; Other Surname: "M*CA*R"; Sex: "Female"; Year From: 1861; Year To: 1956;

and picked up just the one entry below:

1869 BIGLEY ISABELLA MCCARTER F 60 SPRINGBURN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 622/02 0035

Hope this is helpful!

Best wishes
Jean

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:11 am

Hi again Karen

Had a tough time finding them in 1861 on SP

.....but finally they're there only under BOYLE!

1861 BOYLE ISABELLA F 45 ANDERSTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/08 001/08 009

Just in case you wanted to see the original image.....

Best wishes
Jean

karen kozak · Post by **karen kozak** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:35 pm

Hello
Thank you for all the information..I could never find anything on Archibald?? and beleive me I searched high and low, even his mom I couldn;t find anything, and I searched for her death and I also thank you for giving me the name of the poor house..now some more of the puzzle is getting completed..to bad for Archie he died at such a young age..
Karen

karen kozak · Post by **karen kozak** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:44 pm

I have a question in regards to app poor house relief?? how would I go about finding the app that Isabella Mcarthur/Begley likely would have made for poorhouse relief,and can I find it on the computer?? you also stated that Archibald wasn't the informat for her death?? did it by chance state who the informat was??? Now I wonder if they are buried at Dalbeth with her husband John???and I wonder if they are all buried together??

Thanks karen

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:56 pm

Hi Karen

The only place the poor relief records for Barnhill might be found is at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow...and sadly not online. There are several TS folks who visit there on a regular basis(the library and not the poorhouse!!

) so I suspect one of them will pick this one up and look for you. The DC for the Isabella I found was informed by the representative of the Poorhouse...so not a family member. If you know who her parents were then you will quickly know whether this is the right lady...but since you've found nothing else on her then it has a better chance of being her...but still it's not an absolute!!! If a poor relief app can be found it might make all the difference.

As far as the searches go....I hope you now see the extreme value of using wildcards when the exact spelling route doesn't turn up anything. Matter of fact I always use wildcards first and don't wait until I need them! Just remember on SP that an * stands in for one or several letters while a ? stands in for one or no letters.

Best wishes
Jean

sporran · Post by **sporran** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:58 pm

Hello Jean,

whoops, * is zero or any number characters, whereas ? is one character. They can be used in combination, so ROB??*SON finds Robinson and Robertson, but not Robson or Robison.

Regards,

John

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:26 pm

I knew that....honest I did

Wow....wonder I found them at all innit??? Must be time for a holiday

Thanks John

Jean

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