Govan Poorhouse.....

angel · Post by **angel** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:25 pm

Hi

My2 x great grandfather died Febuary 1904 . Can any do a lookup for his application for me please? I will be ever so greatful.

Heather

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:07 pm

Hello Heather
I will be going to the Mitchell again next week and I'll have a look for you if nobody else goes before then.

It might help if you can narrow it down a wee bit - his name would help a little

Jim
p.s. I'm also researching Menzies but none are yours

angel · Post by **angel** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:26 pm

Hi Jim

His name is Andrew Queen and he stayed at 179 Nairn Street Govan.

Heather

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:16 pm

Hello Heather
I was a bit pushed for time but had a quick look today.
There is a record for an Andrew Queen who was married to Ann Townsley, he would have been born c1839.
Is this your man?

Jim

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:05 pm

JimM wrote:Hello Heather
I was a bit pushed for time but had a quick look today.
There is a record for an Andrew Queen who was married to Ann Townsley, he would have been born c1839.
Is this your man?

Jim

Hello Jim and Heather,

I had time to transcribe that one today Jim I knew it was Heather's man as I had followed previous posts. I think I am right in saying this was the only application for Andrew.

Date of application - 6.2.1885
Address 14 Greenside Lane Age - 46 from Belfast Religion - Prot.
Married, Labourer.

Son of John Queen, Farmer and Eliza Kane both dead.

Wife - Ann Townsley 43 Born Belfast
Parents - James Townsley and Agnes Shields both dead.
Married - Newtonards 20 years ago last May. No lines.

Children - Issac 20 B. Belfast, idle.
Agnes 8 B. Marlow St. Kinning Park

Previous addresses
Pollokshaws Road - 9months
Cavendish Street - 1 year 6 months
Marlow Street KP 6 years 6months

Applies for wife who is feverish.

Refused as able bodied.

I don't think there is one for 1904 but I think the above gives you lots of info.

Regards,
Annette M

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:16 pm

Well done deciphering that one Annette, It wasn't as clear as Mary O'Brien's
I wondered how the two books were out when I got there

you may have seen me ... I was the rather good looking chap sitting nearest the computers

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:30 pm

Hi Annette & Jim,
And i was the one upstairs at the 2nd reader doing all the coughing

Jack

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:35 pm

Jack wrote:Hi Annette & Jim,
And i was the one upstairs at the 2nd reader doing all the coughing
Jack

I heard you Jack as I was thinking that was probably the same bug as I had a couple of weeks ago!!

Annette M

angel · Post by **angel** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:01 pm

Hi Everyone

Many thanks for all of your hard work you have gave a lot of information. Including a different wife for James Townsley as on his deat cert the wife is given as Eliza Cain. I think the same daughter registered both deathes so it looks as if there has been a mistake made as both here parents died before a year was out.

Thre was a son John which has not been mentioned in the application he was a year older than Isaac. His father died in Feb 1904 so any application would have been made in 1903 as he died in the poor house.

Maybe you can help me here as I do not know how long it would take for him to go to the poor house after the allication was made so I am thinking that it would be towards the end of the year.

Andrew Queen could have been born in 1839 as the dates I have are from the census but on his death cert he is supposed to be 69 and his wife 47 years old. All I can say is a great big thank you as I now have loads of info.

Heather

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:22 pm

angel wrote:Hi Everyone

Many thanks for all of your hard work you have gave a lot of information. Including a different wife for James Townsley as on his deat cert the wife is given as Eliza Cain. I think the same daughter registered both deathes so it looks as if there has been a mistake made as both here parents died before a year was out.

Thre was a son John which has not been mentioned in the application he was a year older than Isaac. His father died in Feb 1904 so any application would have been made in 1903 as he died in the poor house.

Maybe you can help me here as I do not know how long it would take for him to go to the poor house after the allication was made so I am thinking that it would be towards the end of the year.

Andrew Queen could have been born in 1839 as the dates I have are from the census but on his death cert he is supposed to be 69 and his wife 47 years old. All I can say is a great big thank you as I now have loads of info.

Heather

Heather I have just been reading another post you made in February regarding Andrew and family.
When I searched for Andrew's poorhouse application yesterday there was only one and that is the one I've transcribed from 1885.

When he died in Barnhill in 1904 what was he called on his death entry- was it Quin or Queen?
I ask because, no matter what you know about him now, whatever is written on that death entry (if it was registered by the governer of the poorhouse) is the information he gave when applying.

The search criteria when looking for a poorhouse application at The Mitchell Library is by surname (you can give forename but best not to).
The spelling has to be exact. You then scroll till you find their year and place of birth.

Would you like to post his death entry in the gallery so we have the full picture?

Regards,
Annette M