Sweetie Factory

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:35 pm

Hi,
Can anyone help track down a possible sweetie factory or shop somewhere in Central Glasgow?
My gggrandfather Robert Ross is stated at 1861 as being a confectioner which he continues to be until his death in 1904. He was an employer and according to various census employed some of his children at times. The family lived in Shuttle St from at least 1861 until his death.
My mother once said he had a sweetie factory in Lightburn:?: I think and my cousin has recently said he was Ross Sweeties. Maybe these are family myths!
Prior to 1861 he seems to have been in the cloth trade being a Clothlapper then a Calcuderer so how he came to be a confectioner is another mystery!
Lizzie

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:25 pm

Hi Lizzie,

Not telling you anything you don't already know but he is in thisonline trade directory of 1866.

Regards,
Annette

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:24 pm

Hi Annette,
Thankyou for that. I thought there must be a register somewhere but didn't dream it would be on line. Do you know if there are any for later dates?
I assume this means this means the confectionery business was run from their home.
Lizzie

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:31 pm

LizzieS wrote:Hi Annette,
Thankyou for that. I thought there must be a register somewhere but didn't dream it would be on line. Do you know if there are any for later dates?
I assume this means this means the confectionery business was run from their home.
Lizzie

Sounds like quite large premises form this advertin 1900 for the sale of the property.

Regards,
Annette

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:59 am

Hi Annette
Buy the looks of things, Lizzie will need to search in the 19thC British newspapers site for that one herself, as the link won't let us see it - must be because it was your account.
http://access.gale.com/newstrial/

Best wishes
Lesley

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:26 am

LesleyB wrote:Hi Annette
Buy the looks of things, Lizzie will need to search in the 19thC British newspapers site for that one herself, as the link won't let us see it - must be because it was your account.
http://access.gale.com/newstrial/

Best wishes
Lesley

Yes I thought that might happen, thanks Lesley.

Lizzie,
For that particular advert use Lesley's link and do a basic search for 51 Shuttle Street in 1900.

Regards,
Annette

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:34 pm

Also try a search in the Glasgow Herald for tobacconist ice cream
Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Wednesday, January 24, 1900

“widespread evil in connection with ice-cream, tobacconist, and confection shops. He alluded to the several efforts that had been made by the Sabbath Protection Association to procure more effective legislation in order to check the growing evil and demoralizing influence upon the young and rising generation.”

And then search for ice cream tobacco for very much more of the same, mention of sale of sweeties to children etc
Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Thursday, February 8, 1900

Now we know! It was ice cream being sold on a Sunday that derailed us all from the straight and narrow.

Alan

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:49 pm

Hi All,
Thanks for that and the search tip Annette. I've had a look at all the adverts and articles mentioned. I'm always amazed to find web sites giving so much info that I haven't know about before.
I thought it must be a reasonabe size business as 1881 census gives Robert Ross as employing 3 men. 3 boys and 1 woman.
Also looking at my notes I realised the family lived at 53 Shuttle St, so not "over the shop".
Lizzie

ROY M · Post by **ROY M** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:23 am

Hi Lizzie
At this time a confectioner was a baker who made cakes etc. A lot of my relies from Forfarshire were confectioners.
You are not nessesarily looking for someone who made sweets.

Hope this helps.

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:41 pm

Hi Roy,
Thanks for that. You may well be right as at various census two of his sons are given as a Bread Van Man and a Van Man Biscuit.
Lizzie