does anyone know what thisis please

[Justjan]

Tramner 2 Boys & 2 Shiprents Scholar

[LesleyB]

Hi Jan

Tramner 2 Boys & 2 Shiprents Scholar

Two quesitons
1. Where have you seen this? Is it on a census? If so, where & what year? In order to help it is useful to know the context.
2. (I think I know the answer to this one...) Did you find it on Ancestry?

My guess would be that it is an occupation (Tramner - what ever that has been originally, I suspect we are dealing with an Ancestry transcription here....) followed by the fact that this person employed 2 boys and 2 something-elses. You would really need to see the original, not rely on a transcription, to know what was written.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Justjan]

this is all it is Lesley , this is the wife s occupation , her Husband is a employer , Master Barker , this mans son was my Grandfathers best man , so i assume , he is the one who taught him to be a Baker , not sure if its a scholership sort of thing
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William
Gender: Female
Where born: Shotts, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 241 Eglinton St
Occupation: Tramner 2 Boys & 2 Shiprents Scholar
ED: 29
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1871_139

[LesleyB]

Ah, so as anticipated, it is a census, and it is an Ancestry transcription and it is in Tradeston.
Still don't know what year?

I can't even guess what it might be, though someone else may be more inspired...I'd need to see the original census page, I think, to be sure what it says. You can find the original census page at Scotlands People if you need it.

Best wishes
Lesley

[SarahND]

Master Barker

Woof! Sorry, couldn't resist.

This is obviously a garbled Ancestry transcription. You will have to download the actual image from Scotland's People in order to see what it actually says, I'm afraid. Then you can start asking questions about the occupation. Until then, we can't know what it could be.

Regards,
Sarah

[Justjan]

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1871 Scotland Census
about Mary K Mathieson
Name: Mary K Mathieson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William
Gender: Female
Where born: Shotts, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 241 Eglinton St
Occupation: Tramner 2 Boys & 2 Shiprents Scholar
ED: 29
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1871_139
Household Members: Name Age
William Mathieson 41
Mary K Mathieson 39
Thomas Mathieson 11
William Mathieson 9
James Mathieson 4
Mary K Mathieson 2
Maggie Mathieson 4 Mo
James Barr 22


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[SarahND]

As I said, you'll have to download the image from SP. None of us can see any more than what you are seeing. Ancestry is just an index, and suffers from having been transcribed by a machine, we suspect.

Regards,
Sarah

[Justjan]

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1871 Scotland Census
about William Mathieson
Name: William Mathieson
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary K
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Tradeston
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 241 Eglinton St
Occupation: Master Baker Employing
ED: 29
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1871_139
Household Members: Name Age
William Mathieson 41
Mary K Mathieson 39
Thomas Mathieson 11
William Mathieson 9
James Mathieson 4
Mary K Mathieson 2
Maggie Mathieson

[LesleyB]

Hi Jan
The Ancestry transcriptions are well known around here for coming up with very creative and not very accurate occupations (and addresses too sometimes)

It may well be that the employer of the 2 boys and the 2 whatever-elses is the baker, BUT the only way to really know what it says is to see the ORIGINAL census page, from SP. Otherwise we are only guessing.

Best wishes
Lesley

[Justjan]

ok Lesley
will have to be tomorrow , too late now for going into SP ,as i really should be in bed at up early for work ,
thanks again , i will let you know what it says once i get it
thanks loads