Tryin find John Scott from Campbeltown

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:14 pm

I've been watching this one and , like you Sarah, am very tempted by that Robert Smith especially as he seems to be the only one in Campbeltown at that time.

What I find confusing is, if Robert's name is on the birth entry then my understanding is that he registered the birth along with Margaret. In that case I'm surprised his occupation (and an address) isn't shown.

Jenny any chance you would upload the entry to the gallery?

Regards,
Annette

Montrose Budie · Post by **Montrose Budie** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:15 am

Both in the original entry in the Register Book of Births and the RCE Robert Scott is shown as a Painter.

Robert Scott's signature does appear on the original entry, so he was present at the registration of the birth; there was no requirement for an address to be given for him.

It may be that he subsequently denied paternity, so that the purpose of the action leading to the RCE was to prove paternity once and for all.

mb

Post by **SarahND** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:29 am

Thanks, MB!
Glad to know I rounded up the right man

Jenny,
Looks like this Robert is your ancestor after all. If you download his death cert, it should give you his parents names and you can go back another generation.

All the best,
Sarah

Post by **SarahND** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:06 am

Hi all,
This is my guess for Robert's family, from the IGI:

Children of Robert H(enry) Scott and Mary Clark:

Robert Douglas Scott was born 13 Jan 1862 Campbeltown
Mary Ann Scott born 10 May 1863 Campbeltown
William Clark Scott born 24 Jul 1864 Campbeltown
Peter Scott born 8 Mar 1867 Campbeltown

Looks like Robert and Peter were brothers!

But I don't see a close relationship between Robert Jr and the John who eventually married Malcolm's mother.

Regards,
Sarah

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:24 pm

Montrose Budie wrote:Both in the original entry in the Register Book of Births and the RCE Robert Scott is shown as a Painter.

Robert Scott's signature does appear on the original entry, so he was present at the registration of the birth; there was no requirement for an address to be given for him.

It may be that he subsequently denied paternity, so that the purpose of the action leading to the RCE was to prove paternity once and for all.

mb

Thanks David it was really bugging me!

Regards,
Annette

Montrose Budie · Post by **Montrose Budie** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:50 am

nelmit wrote:
Montrose Budie wrote:Both in the original entry in the Register Book of Births and the RCE Robert Scott is shown as a Painter.

Robert Scott's signature does appear on the original entry, so he was present at the registration of the birth; there was no requirement for an address to be given for him.

It may be that he subsequently denied paternity, so that the purpose of the action leading to the RCE was to prove paternity once and for all.

mb
Thanks David it was really bugging me!

Regards,
Annette

Hi Annette

Which was why I replied!

I can just imagine the conversation between the pair.....

"Haw, son, oany chance of some money tae support the wain!"

"Hen, nae chance!"

"Haw, son, U'll hae tae take ye tae court, then!"

"Hen, gizza brek!, ye'll no go to court!"

But she did!, - the point being that the admission of paternity via his signing the entry in the Register Book of Births placed no legal obligation on him to support the child in terms of maintenance payments; but a paternity order from the Sheriff Court did provide such a means, on an unoffical basis or an official basis via a further, relevant court order to require him to pay maintenance.

It's more than likely that the parish authorities would have funded such a court action, even if a lawyer hadn't taken the case on a pro bono basis; as, otherwise, the parish were more than likely to end up supporting the mother and child via the Poor Law requirements !

mb