Aberdeen districts 1841 Census

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JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:50 pm

Hi Carol

This is the 1841 Ancestry version....

Name: James Saymour
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 9 Skene Row
Occupation: Wright
Parish Number: 168B

Household Members: Name Age
James Saymour 25
Janet Saymour 20
John Saymour 3months
William Baillie 25

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:56 pm

Jean,

:shock: :roll:

Thanks! I was just looking on SP and they aren't doing much better!

How cold and snowy is it up there in Maine this morning or shouldn't I ask?

It's 17 degrees on my back porch, no snow here though!

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:08 pm

Hi Carol

We seem to be in a heat wave then! Thermometer is out of the teens and hovering near 22F at the moment. Got some very stiff wind chills factors out there though....feels more like zero. Snowfall from yesterday is too deep to tell...plow hasn't done the driveway yet but the shrubs have about 20" piles on them and the birdbath is just a mound. The morning news reported Eustis (which is way up there xmas:roll: ) had snowfall of 41" yesterday : xmas:cry: We of course had already picked up in excess of 12" on Friday night. Santa will have no probs whizzing that sleigh around Maine xmas:cool:

Best holiday wishes
Jean

WilmaM
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Post by WilmaM » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:10 pm

I found a Robertson lady in 1851 on freecen:

Piece: SCT1851/232 Place: Peterhead -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Peterhead-Burgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 178 Page: 22 Schedule: 112
Address: St. Peter's Street

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GREIG William Head M M 41 Wright Aberdeenshire - Rathen
GREIG Robeson Wife M F 40 Aberdeenshire - Peterhead
GREIG Agnes Dau U F 8m Aberdeenshire - Peterhead
CHYNE James Nephew U M 6 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Peterhead


can't pin them down in 1841 though
:( if these are yours?
Wilma

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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:17 pm

Hi Wilma,

Thanks for that, but the Robertson you found isn't mine! Janet's sister Robertson is single when she dies in the poorhouse in Peterhead in 1873.

I thought it would be easy to track her, but when I searched for someone named Robertson, I was amazed at how many women there were named Robertson during that time period! It must have been a favorite name then. I only found her death certificate luck--and spending money on SP!

Carol :D
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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:21 pm

Jean,

"Jingle bells! Jingle bells! "

xmas:cheesygrin:

Carol
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WilmaM
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Post by WilmaM » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:49 pm

The Robertson Grieg I found was a Milne, she married William Grieg in St Nicolas so she is probably some relation of 'your' lot !
Wilma

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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:05 pm

Wilma,

I wouldn't be surprised at all if she was a relation. Mine was born in 1825 so yours might have been an older cousin. Now you see why I threw in the towel on this branch earlier on! :lol:

Robertson and Janet's mother was a Mary Gordon. She was born in Glasgow according to the 1851 census, married William Milne in Peterhead according to their marriage certificate and the informant on Robertson's death certificate was John Gordon, in Peterhead who was the govenor of the Poorhouse there.

There is at least one Smith in my family. Maybe I'll go have a look at him for a while...

Carol xmas:biggrin:
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Post by speleobat2 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:30 am

Well, after some serious digging, I still haven't found Janet's mother Mary and her sisters Robertson and Martha on the 1841 Census, but it appears that Robertson had two sons out of wedlock, James Dunningham 1863 in either Fetteresso or Stonehaven, Kincardineshire and Philip Milne 1866 in the Aberdeen City Poorhouse.

By 1871 Robertson and the two boys are living in the poorhouse in Peterhead. Robertson dies in 1873 of tuberculosis and in 1881 both boys are still living in the Peterhead poorhouse. Philip is a scholar and James is now James Milne, 18 and a Pauper. James disappears from the records after this. I haven't had a chance to check the immigration lists yet for him. Philip probably is the farm laborer who dies of pneumonia in Old Deer in 1891 with parents listed as question marks on his death certificate.

I haven't found a marriage or death certificate for Martha, but she could have died between 1851 and 1855. Little Janet, 2 years old on the 1851 Census likewise disappears. I couldn't find a birth certificate for her or for James Dunningham/Milne.

Also on a separate page of the 1851 Census, but at the same address as Mary and the girls is a Margaret Milne, 32 with her nephew Alexander Milne, 12 . Now I'm wondering if she also was a sister of Janet's and if there wasn't an older brother Alexander somewhere too. Mary and William married in 1808, but the first child I could find records for was Janet born in 1818. William was a seaman, but I doubt if he was gone from home completely for the first ten years!

Thanks to everyone who gave me some help on this one. Still have some digging to do!

Merry Christmas!
Carol xmas:biggrin:
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Post by nelmit » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:29 am

Sorry I thought you had found Mary in 1841 -

Name: Mary Milne
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 116 Skene St
Occupation: Wife
Parish Number: 168B
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Milne 50

Regards,
Annette