1841 and 1851 Census lookup .....

[Jack]

Hi Steph,

I've amended the 1851 census of Janet STEVENSON - i'd missed out her age of 55; sorry about that.
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Don't really know what you could do next, but if the 1851 census is correct then it does seem that Grace (STEVENSON) McEWEN's mother was Janet, and not Grace.
[and that this is a different family altogether to the Archibald (b1823) & Grace (b1825) STEVENSON with mother Grace McCALLUM]
Maybe look to see what happened to this Janet, and her daurs Margaret & Janet? - hoping they survived to 1855.
But probably rather difficult - STEVENSON is a popular name, and not knowing father's forename & mother's maiden name might make them all rather hard to trace.

Or possibly try contacting the LDS member who submitted Archibald & Grace's births in the IGI?
That person may have more details on them?

Don't know anything about English DCs, but am i right in thinking that, even if you did find it,
Archibald STEVENSON's in England wouldn't give both his parents' names?

Jack

[stephlangan]

Hi Jack

I played around on the LDS website and used some credits I had at SP today and I think I can rule out the McEwen -Stevensons as any relation of mine.

I took your advise and looked up what I could on the daughters of Janet. From the LDS there is Margaret b 1821, Elizabeth B 1823 and Jannet b 1824 - but no Grace, Susan or Archibald. I was able to find Susans marriage in 1861 to Fred Wright - her parents are listed as James Stevenson and Janet Young . When I do an OPR birth search on the parents James Stevenson and Janet Young there is nothing. But their is one child called Margaret born to James Stevenson and Janet Aitkenhead.

I thought about this a lot today and if I am to go with the 1841 Census info that you got me a few months ago where Archibald Stevenson was living in Blythswood age 15 smith apprentice not born in Lanark as correct then I get the following if I do an OPR search on the birth of children called Archibald Stevenson between the year 1825- 1827

Archibald Stevenson born 17/12/1825 to John Stevenson and Agnes Syme
in Edinburgh Parish

Archibald Stevenson born 07/08/1825 to James Stevenson and Grace McCallum in Glasgow Parish - rule this one out as in Lanark

Archibald Stevenson born 01/12/1827 to James Stevenson and Jean Douglas in Dalry Parish.

Achibald Stevenson B 14/01/1827 to William Stevenson and Margaret Brown in Adrossan Parish

If I can prove that in 1841 one of the three Archibalds' is not living with parents then he could be mine and that would give me the parents.

Is my logic sound??

Steph

[Jack]

Hi Steph,

It might be sound if we could guarantee that every birth in Scotland was recorded - but sadly this isn't the case.
Very many births pre 1855 weren't, and your Archibald might be among those not....
So always the possibility that none of those Archibalds is yours.

IF a naming pattern was followed for his children, then parents MIGHT have been William & Ellen/Helen.
This is pure speculation based on the names used for the 1st daur (Mary), and the 2nd son (John).
(Ann's parents being John & Mary)

Maybe once SP put the earlier censuses online you'll find him in Scotland. Here's a rough timetable for Archibald & family.
An age of 15yrs in the 1841 censuses could mean 15yrs to 19yrs.
The 1841 said born outside Lanarkshire - but censuses aren't always correct.
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1841 - as a possible 15yr old in Glasgow (right occupation), born outside County.
1851 - ?? hope he's in Scotland, should give his birthplace.
1852 - married Ann McIlroy / McAvoy in Glasgow.
1853 - daur Mary b Glasgow.
1855 - son William b England.
1857 - son John b England.
1860 - daur Ellen b Glasgow; mother signs BC.
1861 - ?? some doubt if he's still living as wife Ann says she's a widow, but see next >>
1862 - daur Ann b Glasgow with Archibald named as her father; mother signs BC.
1868 - wife Ann's DC says she was married to, and not widower of, Archibald. Informant brother James McAvoy.
1871 - ?? if still living, then where?
1874 - daur Mary's MC says he was deceased.
1884 - daur Ann's Poor Law record also says deceased.
What became of sons William & John?
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So i suppose the first thing is to try and find him in 1851.
Later...
We don't actually know if the Archibald in 1841 is yours (although it looks good);
but this might be the same unmarried Archibald you've found in England 1881 & 1891? Not saying it is - but it's possible.
And always the chance that your Archibald is a bit older than thought to be.
I only mention this because we don't as yet have any positive sightings of him that does say when he was born!

Jack