1851 Susan Davie - is she in Glasgow (Barony?) .....

Davie · Post by **Davie** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:09 pm

Hi Lesley
That was great to see the family in the 1841, using Guy as the name.
Was it the same spelling in 1851?
Oh, and yes please, i would like a copy of that too.
We knew that there was a Susan Gay born 1836? to the same family, if you can have a wee search for that lass as well, it would be appreciated.
We know a fair bit of the Gay family, but could never find the births as it never occured to any of us to think of Guy, till I noticed your post.

Here are Donald and his brother on the 1881 census
Dwelling: Slamannan Road School House & School Detached Census Place: Slamannan, Stirling, Scotland

Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Donald GAY M 42 M Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Teacher
Margaret CAMPBELL (GAY) M 44 F Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Annie M. GAY 16 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Pupil Teacher
Margaret C. GAY 8 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholars
Agnes B. GAY 7 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholars
Jessie B. GAY 3 F Slamannan, Stirling, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Donald GAY 10 M Dunoon, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Son
Isabella MC LUCKIE 16 F Polmont, Stirling, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: General Serv Domestic

Dwelling: 28 Gardner St Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Alexander GAY M 51 M Cardross, Dunbarton, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Clerk GR Infirmary
Mary GAY M 45 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Alexander GAY U 20 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Fleshers Shopman
Mary GAY 15 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Underclothing Saleswoman
Jessie GAY 13 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth M.E. GAY 10 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Jane A. GAY 3 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
John WILSON 15 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Spirit Merchants Assistant

I noticed that Isabel (b.1785) and Andrew (b.1791) Susan (b1788) father John, mother Jean Peacock are Gay on their certs. in the parish

My Faither, Gavin (b1905) his brothers Hughie (1908) and Bill (1910) could remember visiting the uncles at the "Butts" in Kardriss, with their faither. Gavin McNaughtan.
Thanks again
Davie

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:48 pm

Hi Davie

if you can have a wee search for that lass as well, it would be appreciated.

All I have are my handwritten notes of Guys found in the 1841 & 1851 census - I tend to take notes of all folks with of names of relevance when I'm trawling through census microfilms. It tends to save time later when you suddenly wonder if X's brother/uncle/sister was there too and you weren't looking! There aren't that many Guys in the area.

In the 1841 Cardross the other Guys I took note of (which may or may not turn out to be of interest) are:

En dist 2 p. 6 Auchinfrae,
Alexander Guy 41 Ag. Lab
Grace Guy 30 Yes
Janet Guy 8 yes
John Guy 4 yes
David Guy 3 yes
Mary Guy 6m yes

En dist 2 p.9 Auchinsail
Margaret Guy 12 Yes (seems to be with family of William Davie, a farmer, aged 96!)

En dist 2 p.9 Kirkton of Kilmahen(?)
Robert Guy 78 Linen HLW (hand loom weaver, I think) Yes
Mary Guy 60 Yes
Catherine Guy 30 Yes

then for 1851 (not sure if I completed whole Parish as there don't seem to be many at all - maybe ran out of time at local LDS.. however, luck was on your side 'cos I do have the ones you are looking for!)

En. dist 1 page 13
Bridgend Ferryhouse
John Gay H M 50 Shoe maker (master) employing [note missing - maybe was illegible?] born Bonhill
Margaret McCallum W M 44 shoe makers wife born Luss
Janet Gay dau, un, 17 born Cardross
Donald Gay son 12 scholar born Cardross
John Gay son 7 scholar born Cardross
Peter Gay son 3 born Cardross
Margaret [looks like] Glenn serv. Un 19 House servant born Bonhill
Wm. Gay Serv. U 40 Shoemaker born Bonhill
** Jas. Davie Serv. Un 28 Shoemaker born Cardross
Jas. Jardine serv. un 22 Shoemaker born Lanark, Glen Park
John Wilson serv. un 17 apprentice Shoemaker born Cardross
Daniel Wilson serv. un 15 apprentice shoemaker born Cardross

**this is one of my lot I think , (brother to Susan who married Daniel McNicol )he was b. 1822 and was a Shoemaker in 1881-1901 census. Same chap who was in the 1841 with this family.

en dist 2 page 19
Barnfield Cottage
John Guy H M 56 customer weaver [thats what it looked like] born Dunbartonshire, [looked like] Paisley [but doesn't quite add up!]
Elizabeth Guy wife mar 50 born Argylshire [looked like] Strachan
Catherine Guy niece age 7 scholar born Renfrewshire, Greenock

Bear in mind that all place names are as I thought I saw them... Usual cautions about transcription errors apply!

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **AnneM** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:05 pm

Hi

The Argyllshire place of birth is probably Strachur. To my knowledge, Strachan (pronounced Strawn) is in Aberdeenshire and I don't think there's one is Argyll.

Anne

That John Guy and Elisabeth McNair were married on 15th August 1829 in Cardross and she is almost certainly the extracted entry for an Elizabeth McNair born 1st March 1801 in Strachlachlan to Peter McNair and Mary Brody, which is more or less Strachur. Hope this infor is of use to one of you but they probably belong to neither. At least I've convinced myself it reads Stachur or Strachlachlan.

BTW There was a John Guy born 20 Mar 1795 to John Guy and Marjorie Davie and a John Guy born 7 May 1798 to a Robert Guy and Cathrine Davie but you may have them already if you are looking for Guy/Davie combinations.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:24 pm

Hi Anne
You are probably right. I'm not familiar with place names round there - the pitfalls of transcribing areas with which you are not familiar! I'm sure someone from Dunbartonshire will make mincemeat of my attempts at place names in the local area

Strachur in census-style handwriting would look pretty like Strachan to someone (me!) who didn't know the likely place names.

Thanks for that - I'll away and amend my scribbled notes!

Best wishes
Lesley