1851 Census Glasgow .....

Rachel · Post by **Rachel** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:57 pm

Thanks for that info Jack kind of you to take the trouble.I have managed to sort out most of the family by other means i.e SP LDS GROand 1837 online. Looks though as if I am not going to be much help to anyone else with this CD. My nearest family centre is Coventry and I could make it there but for family commitments same reason I cannot get to Glasgow. I will remember your kind offer if I have any problems with mine in the future.
rachel

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:11 am

Hi Jack,

Yes that looks like the right family, but Isabella must have died quite young as they had another child called Isabella in 1863.

Something else for me to follow up!

Caroline

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:31 pm

Hi Caroline,
I've amended John TAYLOR's age to 51 on the previous census.
I'd written that down, but index had 37, so i thought (wrongly again!) that i'd made an error.
Checked it today - quite clear as 51. Sorry for this confusion, as it makes a big difference in trying to find his DC.
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And here's Richard & family - ages well checked!

1851 cens 644-2 (610) Ed 32 p 9 (Gorbals - Hutchesontown)
146 Rutherglen Rd.
Richard NICHOLSON, head, marr, 35, general labourer, b Ireland
Martha NICHOLSON, wife, marr, 23, --------- b Dalry, AYR
Martha NICHOLSON, daur, 5, ------------- b Glasgow, LKS
Isabella NICHOLSON, daur, 10mos, --- b Glasgow, LKS
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Yes, it does look like wee Isabella above has probably died young, and possibly between 1857 - 1863?

Jack

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:16 pm

Hi Jack,

Thanks for finding out John Taylors correct age -prevents me from having many fruitless searches for his death certificate as his name is very common in Glasgow.

Also thanks for the Nicholson info -no doubt I'll be in touch sometime in the future looking for more census locations!

Caroline

Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:02 pm

Following on from above I was wondering if anyone (most probably Jack!) could place Richard Nicholson and Martha Crossan in 1841 in Glasgow before they married?

Richard would be about 23 and his parents were Richard and Elizabeth, while Martha would be about 14 and her parents were James (weaver) and Esther.

Thanks,

Caroline

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:12 pm

Caroline wrote:Following on from above I was wondering if anyone (most probably Jack!) could place Richard Nicholson and Martha Crossan in 1841 in Glasgow before they married?

Richard would be about 23 and his parents were Richard and Elizabeth, while Martha would be about 14 and her parents were James (weaver) and Esther.

Thanks,

Caroline

Hello Caroline,

Could this be Martha and Esther in 1841?

CROSSAN Esther F 35 Cotton Yarn Winder Ireland
CROSSAN Martha F 12 Cotton Power Loom Weaver Outside Census County (1841)
CROSSAN Esther F 8 Cotton Power Loom Weaver Ayrshire
CROSSAN Mary F 6 Ayrshire
Page: 11/10 CROSSAN Cathrine F 3 Ayrshire

I got this from the FREECEN site.

Regards,
Annette m

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:01 pm

Hi Caroline,
Can't see Richard NICHOLSON in Glasgow 1841.
There are over 200 "Nicholson"s in Glasgow 1841, but none with the forename Richard.
And if he is in Scotland by then, it might be Rutherglen? (where he married in 1844).

Alas i've no access to any of the other Lanarkshire 1841 indexes, and Rutherglen isn't as yet available on FreeCen.
So it looks like a wee wait for SP to put the 1841 online. Sorry!

Jack
ps, meant to say - no Martha "CROSSAN" in Glasgow either.
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Caroline · Post by **Caroline** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:45 pm

Hi Annette and Jack,

Thank you both for your help. I had looked at FREECEN but I was searching in the wrong places as I just tried Lanarkshire, and Dalry where Martha was meant to be born. That'll teach me! However if she was born in Dalry that would cast doubt on tha above entry, but it looks a distinct possibility at the moment.

As for Richard I thought he might have been in the Gorbals as the IGI had that as their place of marriage in 1844. As you say Jack I'll just need to wait until it comes up on SP, but as I think I've mentioned before my sight is rapidly going so I hope they don't take too long!

Thanks again,

Caroine

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:34 am

Hi Caroline,
Not too sure of the area Gorbals Parish covered around the 1840s, but it might've bordered Rutherglen?

The 1873 Poor Relief Record says that Richard & Martha were married on,
"21 June 1844 in Rutherglen by The Revd. Mr Brown. Lines seen"

That's why i was thinking he may have been in Rutherglen.
Later - i suppose there's always the chance Richard wasn't in Scotland by 1841, and was still in Ireland? Hope not!

Jack

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:41 pm

Hi Caroline,
Came across this last night when looking for something else....
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It confirms the 1841 census that Annette found.
Married daur Martha Nicholson is next door at No 146.
Maybe the Poor Law record should've said married in Rutherglen ROAD, and not just Rutherglen?
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1851 cens 644-2 (610) Ed 32 p 6 (Gorbals - Hutchesontown)
144 Rutherglen Road.
Esther CROSSAN, head, widow, 51, ------------------- b Ireland
Esther CROSSAN, daur, u/m 22, powerloom weaver, b Dalry, AYR
Mary Ann CROSSAN, daur, u/m 18, ditto, b Dalry, AYR
Catherine CROSSAN, daur, 13, ditto, b Kilbirnie, AYR
William ORR, nephew, Marr, 32, tailor, b Dalry, AYR
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Jack

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