Where would I look up the 1841 census for Tinwald? .....

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nelmit
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Post by nelmit » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:01 am

Dennis wrote:Hello Jean 8)

I can wait it out :) I have so many branches on the tree that I can redirect my focus to another. :)

I sent a query to Dumfries and Galloway Council; and they replied
with the following:

Thank you for your email. I have passed your enquiry on to the appropriate person to deal with, who should reply directly to you. However, if you do not receive a reply please contact CIS@dumgal.gov.uk


dennis
I did not have much time to look on Saturday but there is an Archibald Richardson, Farmer of the right kind of age living in - Lochmaben I think-I was in too much of a rush to write it down. There definitely was not one in Tinwald or Applegarth.
I will have a proper look when I next go to the Mitchell.

Annette M

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re Baird Family

Post by ASGROOMBRIDGE » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:10 pm

Hi Dennis,

Hope you dont give up, we all have low moments and TS and friends are very good at picking you up and dusting you down. :lol:

On another note I have Bairds in my line from Dumfriesshire mainly Annan and Kilpatrick Fleming.

regards,
Audrey
Looking for McGowan Anderson Fleming Sommerville Waddell in Lanarkshire. Semple Murray Baird Thompson Hutchinson in Annan Dumfriesshire Baird and Hutchinson also in Kirkinner Wigtonshire and Semple family of Annan Glasgow and Edinburgh

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Post by Dennis » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:22 pm

Hello Jean et al,

I received this email today from my enquiry and it looks to give me some leads on things:

Thank you for your e-mail of 11th November which has been forwarded to us.

I have been able to find only one record that might refer to the David Richardson that you are researching. It is an entry in the index to the old parish records. It lists a David Richardson christened in Lochmaben on 18th January 1824, whereas the 1851 census shows him as having been born in Applegarth parish. The parents are listed as Archibald Richardson and Jane Irvine. It is interesting to note that David and Janet's oldest daughter, as listed on the 1851 census, was called Jane and their oldest son was called Archibald. It is possible that David was simply mistaken about where he was born when asked for that information for the census. It might even be possible that he was born in Applegarth but christened in the neighbouring parish of Lochmaben if the family were originally from there. David Richardson's age at the time of the 1851 census would make the year of birth, 1824, right.

I have not been able to find them in the 1841 census. There is an Archibald Richardson, aged 38, who was a farmer at Greenhill in Lochmaben parish, but the only other person in the household is a woman called Isabell, aged 20. Since the 1841 census does not indicate relationships between the members of a household we cannot tell if Isabell was a wife, daughter or other relation. There is, therefore, no way of knowing if this could be the same Archibald who was the father of David Richardson.

I'm sorry that this is all a bit speculative, but sometimes it is not possible to be certain about the connections between people appearing on different records.

If you would like more extensive research carried out, you might like to make use of our fee-based research service. Details can be found on our website at www.dumgal.gov.uk/lia. Click on "Local history and genealogy", and then "Fee-based research".

Good luck with your research and let us know if we can be of further help.

Neil Moffat.
Reference and Local Studies Department
Dumfries and Galloway Libraries, Information and Archives, Catherine Street, Dumfries, DG1 1JB
Tel: 01387 253820
Fax: 01387 260294
Drop Point: 223
E-mail: ref1@dumgal.gov.uk
Website: www.dumgal.gov.uk/lia

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dennis
Names of interest: Lennox McKenna Airth Skirving Veitch Laird Drysdale Bennett Colledge Baird Blades Barker Dow Mitchell Perkins Rielly Stewart Tulloch Wright Ure, Ritch Richardson, Whyte
Places of Interest: Dunbarney, Forfar, East London (S.Africa)

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Post by JustJean » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:35 pm

Hi Dennis

Wow! Impressive reply! Looks like you're getting there bit by bit. Keep up the good work!

Best wshes
Jean

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Re: re Baird Family

Post by Dennis » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:41 pm

ASGROOMBRIDGE wrote:Hi Dennis,

I have Bairds in my line from Dumfriesshire mainly Annan and Kilpatrick Fleming.

regards,
Audrey
Hello Audrey,

It looks like my Baird cluster were not ones for wandering outside of Tranent.

dennis
Names of interest: Lennox McKenna Airth Skirving Veitch Laird Drysdale Bennett Colledge Baird Blades Barker Dow Mitchell Perkins Rielly Stewart Tulloch Wright Ure, Ritch Richardson, Whyte
Places of Interest: Dunbarney, Forfar, East London (S.Africa)

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Post by Dennis » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:34 pm

Hi,

Well, a wee bit of a problem. The reply I received above has David's parents as Archibald Richardson & Jane Irvine but no mention of when or where they married; however, when I do a familysearch on David w/ those parents it spits out that he married Margaret W. Graham, not Janet Graham. So I have no documented proof of any of those marriages.
Archibald's parents are David Richardson & Jean Grieve ( yes, it was not lost on me that one of David & Janet's children has Graham Grieve as middle names:)

dennis
Names of interest: Lennox McKenna Airth Skirving Veitch Laird Drysdale Bennett Colledge Baird Blades Barker Dow Mitchell Perkins Rielly Stewart Tulloch Wright Ure, Ritch Richardson, Whyte
Places of Interest: Dunbarney, Forfar, East London (S.Africa)