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StewL
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Post by StewL » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:55 am

Hello Sarah
During my last "dry" spell I decided to have a look at my gggrandmother Mary Downie whose first husband Thomas Davidson died in a pit accident, she quickly remarried a widower Andrew McLean and by the time I had "finished with this pair I had sixteen, :shock: yes that is sixteen children between the two of them from their previous and subsequent marriages :D
So its amazing what you find with peripheral searches :D
Stewie

Searching for: Anderson, Balks, Barton, Courtney, Davidson, Downie, Dunlop, Edward, Flucker, Galloway, Graham, Guthrie, Higgins, Laurie, Mathieson, McLean, McLuckie, Miln, Nielson, Payne, Phillips, Porterfield, Stewart, Watson

LesleyB
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Post by LesleyB » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:09 pm

Hi Sarah
I was at NRH today and had a quick look for the death of your William but nothing was jumping out at me.

There were 3 in 1916 who were in minor records so no parents mentioned:
William Robert age 55, 028/MR 475
William Thomas age 52, 146/MR 259
William Thomas age 53, 028/MR 412

But as you've not mentioned a middle name I doubt these are relevant. I wonder if he went abroad? Or is indexed so cunningly we'll never find him!? :?

I also had a look to see how easy/difficult a search for marriages of Ann & Margaret would be, but as you probably know these names in conjunction with Ramsay are not uncommon combinations & really the only way, apart from a stoke of very good luck or a chance tripping over one of their descendants, (try Genes Reunited maybe? If you have't already...) would be a day at NRH checking them all - your head would be birling by the end of the day but you might find them. I can sympathise with this one as I have an Ann Smith who I've lost after age 18 in the 1901 - you can imagine the fun to be had with that one, I'm sure!

Sorry not to come back with anything more positive.

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by SarahMackay » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:49 pm

Hi Lesley

Thanks for your help. I knew it wasn't going to be easy - I think I have been relatively lucky so far...

On the upside, I think I have found William's father William Senior in the 1871 Census, although bringing up more questions (I think there is a pattern forming :) )

He is in Edinburgh living on his own working as a Railway Porter. This seems strange as he has always been a farmer or shepherd on every other entry I have for him but the age, marital status and the birthplace are correct.

Am I making an incorrect assumption or does anyone have any theories why if this is him for the change in job?

Thanks again Lesley

Sarah

StewL
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Post by StewL » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:32 am

Hi Sarah

My only thought on change of occupation is that it could have been purely economic. Becoming a railway porter may have meant a more regular income, as opposed to farm labourer, which I assume could have been seasonal, unless he was on the permanent estate of a Laird.

In quite a few of my lines there has been a sudden shift from farm labourer to coal miners, and the metal trades.
Stewie

Searching for: Anderson, Balks, Barton, Courtney, Davidson, Downie, Dunlop, Edward, Flucker, Galloway, Graham, Guthrie, Higgins, Laurie, Mathieson, McLean, McLuckie, Miln, Nielson, Payne, Phillips, Porterfield, Stewart, Watson

wini
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Post by wini » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:22 am

Yes Sarah,
I don't think the change of occupation is a problem and is most likely economic. I have one from Durness where he is alternatively a farmer and fisherman and eventually a Police Constable in Glasgow, sadly he didn't last long when he got to Glasgow dying of the dreaded Pulmonary Tuberculosis

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reporter
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Post by reporter » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:03 am

What's it about those Ramsays? I'm having a collapsing nut loaf trying to find out more about my Gorbals baker William Ramsay and his apprentice son James.
Isabella Waddington, my family interest, married journeyman baker WILLIAM RAMSAY on January 11, 1870 at Langloan, Old Monkland.. He was 24 and son of deceased coal miner LEWIS RAMSAY and JANET RAMSAY, maiden name also RAMSAY. They were living at Brown’s Land , Langloan.
In the 1901 Census she was living in the Gorbals, Glasgow at 164 South Coburg Street with husband WILLIAM RAMSAY, 56-year-old baker, and children JAMES, 20,bakers apprentice, ISABELLA, 22 , paper baymaker and MARY, 17, laundry maid.
1914 Death certificate shows that Isabella Waddington, widow of WILLIAM RAMSAY,baker , and daughter of William Waddington and Ann Stewart, died, aged 68, on March 23 at 384 Cumberland Street, Glasgow from malignant disease of the liver. JAMES RAMSAY, son present. Can't find father or son in the area outherwise.
Any chamce of our dough rising?

JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:42 am

Hi reporter

Here's a hot tip for you.....look in 1903 in Hutchesontown for William's death.

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by reporter » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:14 am

Hi again JustJean. Another top spot on you part. That's my man :) Am very new to this research, but to see my views look at story teller post in general gallery. David WW and your good self make it all work. Kind regards.