Bigamist or not.....

[Skene Dhu]

P.S. Jack,

The family you mentioned in Glasgow are of a different family, rumours go that many years ago in Perth, 5 brothers fell out with each other, and 1 decided to add/subtract an "N" from the name, and there does seem to be more Conacher`s than Connacher.

Just for the fun of it, everyone dreams of winning the Lottery, I would`nt mind finding a connection with CONNACHER OIL & GAS in Canada

John

[Skene Dhu]

Hi All,

To make matters worse, I`ve discovered that when John & Elizabeths second child David Connacher married Marion Paton in 1870, David had spelt his name as Conacher, and stated that his father was deceased, when infact his father did`nt die until 1878, the mother Elizabeth Wood is stated alive on the marriage cert., but again there is no death for Eliza/Elizabeth Connacher/Conacher M.S. Wood.

I`m away to have a wee lay doon now, ah feel a heid coming oan.

John

[JustJean]

Hi John

Ummm....you state that John isn't on the 1841 census.....are you certain??? It surely looks like his family in Auchterarder to me.....

Best wishes
Jean

ps...one other thing that perhaps makes them more difficult to locate is the fact that I think they were episcopal....so the early OPR birth registrations aren't there. I further wondered if the fact that daughter MaryAnn being shown as born in "E" on the 1841 would put them out of the country perhaps on those census returns where they are missing........all speculation of course !

[JustJean]

Ok....this is my final word .....at least we know that Eliza(beth) Wood C*N*CH* was deceased by 1882 as it is so stated on Helen's DC. Unfortunately Helen's hubbie seemed to recollect his MIL's first name as Helen.

Jack....I agree wholeheartedly with you on the 1861 census findings of Helen CAMPBELL and Alex and Thomas together. Helen's hubbie might have been off on his stewarding duties. They (Helen and Donald) certainly remained in Glasgow as the trail of births to them attest as well as her own death in Anderston. As for brothers Alex and Thomas...I've no clue.

As for the guilt or innocence of daddy John??? HE'S GUILTY AS SIN !

Best wishes
Jean

[Jack]

Hi John,
I hope you've not been discounting any "possible" CONACHERs because they only have one middle "N".
As Jean says, these 3 look like "yours" - they were living with a John Cumming & family.
--
1861
Thomas CONACHER, u/m 21, tailor, b Muthill, PER
Alexander CONACHER, u/m 22, brassfounder, b Muthill, PER
Helen CAMPBELL, marr, 23, winder in a mill, b Muthill, PER
--
Here's your David - are visitors Charles & George his younger brothers...?

1861 cens 644-8 Ed 10 p 6 (Anderston)
30 Clyde Street.
David CONNACHER, head, marr, 28, tailor (J/man), b Fouls [sic], PER
Mary CONNACHER, wife, marr, 28, ------------------b Sorn, AYR
John CONNACHER, son, 5, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
James CONNACHER, son, 8mos, --b Glasgow, LKS
Charles CONNACHER, visitor, u/m 18, iron founder, b Auchterarder, PER
George CONNACHER, visitor, 15, iron founder, b Kilsyth, STI
--
Jack

[JustJean]

I thought I'd had my final say....but this one just won't lie still!!

How much do you want to bet this turns out to be Thomas in 1880????


Thomas CONACHER Self M Male W 38 SCO Tailor SCO SCO
Mary CONACHER Wife M Female W 38 SWE Keeping House SWE SWE
Samul ATTONSON Other S Male W 18 IL Clerk GER GER


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Source Information:
Census Place Peoria, Peoria, Illinois
Family History Library Film 1254240
NA Film Number T9-0240
Page Number 31A

I'm off to have a wee nosy in the USA.....I'll let you know if anything else turns up....

Jack I tend to agree that you've found the little brothers in 1861...Nice job!!....it just adds one more pin dot on the travel map of John and Eliza....Kilsyth !!! John should have been a shoemaker instead of a tailor for all the leather they must have worn out from traveling about!

Best wishes
Jean

[Jack]

Hi Jean,
There is a Thomas 53, tailor & Mary 53 CONNACHER on the Ellis Island page.
Arriving in the USA on 31 Aug 1895 - departed from Greenock. Intended destination - Peoria, Ill.
(been in Scotland furra wee holiday?)
Jack

[JustJean]

Hi Jack

You don't say! A wee holiday indeed

Thomas took me a wee goose chase especially with the wife indexed as being Swedish in 1880 but I've got them cornered now. Couldn't find a trace of them on another US census til 1910 and then there they were still in Peoria where Thomas stated he had immigrated in 1867 and he and Mary had been married for 48 years. Oh and also that they had never had any children (didn't take that from his father ) Except now Mary comes out Scottish! After quickly tapping out the math with my fingers I decided he had to have married her back in auld Scotia and so back we came and there they were...

1862 CONACHER THOMAS WILSON MARY

(note the one "N" strikes again!) And in 1862 his mum Eliza is still amongst the living....somewhere.....

Best wishes
Jean

[Jack]

Hi folks,
John, it would seem you've yet another name version for John...CONNACHAN
(but this is possibly because of the 28yr old boarder Thomas of that name?)
I was wrong thinking John might've been in Greenock 1861, and he has certainly shaved a good few years off...!
[i'll be very surprised if this isn't your John...]
==
1861 cens 644-1 Ed 42 p 1 (Central)
139 High Street, Glasgow.
/ Arthur MULLAN, head, marr, 39, a nailor to trade, b Ireland
Rosannah MULLAN, wife, marr, 40, a housekeeper, b Ireland
Roseann MULLAN, niece, 8, scholar, b Ireland
Thomas CONNACHAN, boarder, marr, 28, coal miner, b Ireland
/ Mary LAMONT, lodger, marr, 30, a housewife, b Govan, RFW
James CHARLES, lodger, marr, 45, city porter, b Ireland
Henry HANDLEY, lodger, widower, 62, a wright to trade, b Ireland
Robert STEWART, lodger, 15, baker j/m, b England
William McINTYRE, lodger, 15, house painter, b Redgorton, PER
John CONNACHAN, lodger, marr, 44 [sic], tailor j/man, b Cumbernauld, DNB
Jane WATT, lodger, marr, 27, shirt maker, b Cumbernauld, DNB
Mary McKECHINE, lodger, marr, 44, country servant, b Girvan, AYR
==
Jean mentioned mother Eliza(beth) was as alive on the MCs of Helen 1861, and Thomas 1862.
(well done in tracing Thomas' marriage to his "Swedish" wife Mary back to Glasgow!)
Is there now some doubt that John didn't make an error with Eliza WOOD as the mother of wee Jane born 1857?
You'll notice this Elizabeth is living in Bothwell Street 1861 - where wee Jane died in 1859 (just a coincidence...?).
She has a rather unusual birthplace, and so it might be worthwhile finding John CONNACHER & wife Eliza(beth) WOOD in 1851.
(another census guess...somewhere in Stirlingshire?)
==
1861 cens 644-8 Ed 92 p 9 (Anderston)
19 Bothwell Street.
Elizabeth CONNACHER, head, marr, 51, [no occup], born in the Bay of Biscay. [living by herself]
==
Jack
ps, has wee Jean Graham Connacher born 1860 Greenock died very young too? not with parents 1861.

[JustJean]

Oh my God I FOUND HIM!!!!!

I can hardly believe it!! First I found what I really hoped was dau Mary marrying James Swan in Cumbernauld in 1850....but I searched for babies to them and found nothing yet after 1860 and one death of a baby in 1856 that should have been registered in 1855 and didn't seem to be

.........and every darn thing was going wrong as usual with this lot ......til I realized I had not done a wildcard search in CUMBERNAULD DUNBARTON

The image is lousy but I can read tailor and bay of biscay british subject and this is good enough for me!!!!!!!...........

1851 CONNACHE JOHN M 44 CUMBERNAULD /DUNBARTON 495/00 006/00 009

You even get the bonus of daughter Mary SWAN at home ....it even looks like her birthplace is Dublin Ireland instead of "E"...hmmmmm k am I reading that right

I even think there is another new kiddie below wee Georgie too

On that note I'm going to have myself a nightcap....I do believe we've earned it

Best wishes
Jean