1851 census

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:01 pm

Andy,

That is strange! I'm headed out the door for a two day trip, but I'll have another look when I get back.

Carol

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:22 pm

Hello Andy,

I’m not sure whether you have this but here’s the newspaper article.

Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Friday, July 6, 1855.
Powder-Mill Explosion—Four Men Killed.—About half-past ten o’clock, on Tuesday morning last, the corning house at Messrs Curtis and Harvey’s Clyde gunpowder mills, Glenlean, distant about five miles from Dunoon, blew up with a fearful explosion, the shock from which was distinctly felt for many miles off, by which unfortunate casualty the lives of no less than four men have been lost. It appears that at the time of the explosion the tenement, which is one of a number of detached houses all used in different departments in the manufacture of gunpowder, contained, at the time of the accident, about 15 barrels of the explosive material. The four men had been at the time engaged in cleaning part of the mill with copper implements, and to facilitate their operations Mr. Henry Alcock, the overseer, had just handed them a metal wire of a particular description, after doing which he had left them to go to another part of the works, and had just issued from the door when the explosion took place, levelling the building with the ground. Two of the men were got out alive, but they died in two hours afterwards. The names of the deceased, who were all labourers, are—Alex. M’Gregor, aged 36; Alex. Ferguson, 45; Dugald Ferguson, 16; and John M’Kenzie, 71. Two of them have left wives and families. Mr M’Farlane, of the police at Dunoon, is said to have exerted himself most laudably at the scene of the disaster. It is only three months since an explosion took place at the same works, and four explosions have taken place there in all, but none of these previously were attended by any fatal results,—Mail.

If you haven’t seen it and you want the image send me a PM with an email address and I’ll send it.

Hope that’s useful,
Alan

steiner · Post by **steiner** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:10 pm

Thanks Alan just sent you a PM

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:12 pm

steiner wrote:Margaret's ms was Brown according to the certificate - husband one John Carrick - address on marriage certificate was Partick - Grace Street I think. Parents given as John Brown dec and Jane Gillan
On her death certificate husband is mentioned and parents given as John Brown and Margaret Ferguson

I'm a bit baffled

Andy

Baffled is the word!!

If John Brown was deceased when Margaret married then it can't be him (unless that was what she had been told) with Margaret Ferguson on later census records.

Seeing the marriage and death entries might help.

Regards,
Annette

steiner · Post by **steiner** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:40 pm

Hi Annette

It is rather strange. Unless of course the person registering the marriage made a mistake or simply didnt know.

There isnt really any other info the certificates. Margaret's address is given as 15 Grace Street, Partick that's in 1881 of course.

steiner · Post by **steiner** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:25 pm

I heard from a relative overseas that a JANE GILLAN married a Brown in Airdrie 1864 not sure if this is correct though? Havent seen certificate for that?

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:13 pm

Hi Steiner

I heard from a relative overseas that a JANE GILLAN married a Brown in Airdrie 1864 not sure if this is correct though? Havent seen certificate for that?

You could try a search on IGI or on Scotlands People for the marriage.

Best wishes
Lesley

steiner · Post by **steiner** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:39 pm

The Gillan Brown marriage is irrelevant - the groom was a David Brown

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:01 pm

With Jean's help I think I've found Margaret junior in 1881. Search for M* Gill*n age 19 living at Renfrew. There is only one. I found it on the 1881 census discs where her birthplace is transcribed as Kirkcosh, Lanarkshire and I wonder if it could be Gartcosh. Only a look at the original will confirm.

The biggest problem I have with this is your Margaret says she was born at Glasgow in 1891.

Regards,
Annette

steiner · Post by **steiner** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:03 pm

Hi Annette

I don't think that's her. I'm sure she was born either Brown or Ferguson.

On the 1864 marriage cert for John Brown and Marg Ferguson the wedding registered and taking place in Glasgow - John's usual residence is Bathgate West Lothian and Margaret's is Dunoon - suggesting the didnt normally reside in Glasgow?