Censuses Carnwath Lanark .....

[Jack]

Hi Jean,
Meant to say as regards your search for Margaret GORDON in 1861.
You might've found it easier looking for daur Wilhelmina; this for a few reasons.

There will be much fewer with the name of Wilhelmina than Margaret.
Children's ages are usually more accurate than an adult's.
Margaret may have used her maiden name again - like she did in 1841.
Wilhelmina's surname would most likely still be Gordon.
Also, occasionally a widow is recorded as, eg Widow Smith, or Mrs Smith.

In searching for Wilhelmina i'd use W*na* Gord*n
- this should cover just abt all spellings of her forename, and the possibility that surname was as Gorden.
If there were too many "Wilhelmina Gordons" (i'd doubt it though),
then do a search for mother Margaret to find a GROS Ref No that matches one of the "Wilhelminas".
In searching for a Margaret i usually use Ma*g*
- this also covers Margret, Maggie etc. (and hope it isn't as Meg!).

Jack

[Jean Jeanie]

Hi Jack

Wilhelmina was married in 1859 and I have her and her husband from 1861 onwards.

Took a chance on the Margaret in West Calder and it is her. Unfortunately living on her own, widow born Carnwath Lanark.

Jean

[Jack]

Hi Jean,
Thanks for letting me know - so no use looking for a W*na* Gord*n in 1861
Very pleased to hear you've found mother Margaret though.
Jack
ps, forgot to mention another good thing about that 1851 MLN census index.
When you click on any name it gives the household that person is in even if the names are different.
(i've edited my previous post to add this other good feature)

[Jack]

Hi Jean,
I've been playing around with another new "toy"
It's from the West Lothian FHS - The 1851 West Lothian Census CD [30,489 names]
http://www.wlfhs.org.uk/

This index is quite excellent in search options - and it has the very useful "neighbour search".
Definitely a "guid yin".
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1851 cens 686-1 (673) Ed 4 p 10 (Whitburn)
Bridgend.
Thomas GROSSART, head, widower, 64, farmer of 30 acres, b Falkirk, STI
Janet ROBB, servant, u/m, 40, servant, b West Calder, MLN
Elizabeth GORDON, servant, 13, servant, b Carnwath, LKS
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Jack

[Jean Jeanie]

Hi Jack

Thanks for that. Poor Elizabeth living in Whitburn, at the age of 13, when her mum and sister were in West Calder.

I'll be having this census for my birthday as I originate from West Lothian and lots of mine will be on there. I have the booklet for Uphall 1851 but it will be interesting to see who are living elsewhere

Jean

[Jack]

Hi Jean,
Meant to mention - if you're needing anything at the moment from the WLN index then please just say.
I notice there are some Andrew Neills.
Jack

[Jean Jeanie]

Hi Jack

I have the census index for 1851 for Uphall. From that I have found Andrew Neil and Catherine with Elizabeth 25, William 21, and a grandson John aged 6. I also have Andrew Neil and Mary with Andrew 4 and Margaret 2.

There is an Andrew aged 75 with a Beatrice aged 54. This could be one of my Andrews with a second wife.( My gggg grandfather if it is him) I have him married to a Janet Gilbert. Can you tell me where he lives in relation to the 2 others? You can't tell this from the index.



Many thanks
Jean

[Jean Jeanie]

Jack

It is him. You got me thinking. I never looked for his death, as being born in 1777 I didn't think he would last until 1855 or later. He lasted until 1862. I've just found his d.c. Informant is his daughter Isabella (on the 1851 with him aged 24)

Jean

[Jack]

Hi Jean,
A wee bit difficult without looking at the Enumerator's route on the original pages.
Though oldest Andrew does seem a wee bit away from the other 2 - but would depend on the route taken.
The total amount of names in whole of Uphall Parish was 1330.
Enumeration Distict 1 had 38 pages - and nearly all just had Uphall as their address.
There are 20 lines to a page, so pages 10 to 17 will have abt 160 people. Sch 38 to 69 = abt 31 families away.
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Ed 1 p 10 [schedule 38] Andrew 75 & Beatrice 54.
Ed 1 p 17 [schedule 69] Andrew 53 & Catherine 52.
Ed 1 p 17 [schedule 70] Andrew 31 & Mary 27.
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Hope you can understand my ramblings
Jack
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ps, just noticed you found oldest Andrew's 1862 DC - well done

[Jean Jeanie]

Jack

If you don't mind, can you look for the names Glendinning and Corstorphine on your 1851 West Lothian disc? Great names eh

Don't think they reached there till after this but it would save me looking for them when SP comes on line.

Jean