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djcrtoye
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2011 Census Problems

Post by djcrtoye » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:33 pm

Hi, just found out that there are some problems with 2011 census. It boils down to that an American company Lockheed Martin is tendering for the I.T., but according to the Patriot Act in United States they must let the U.S. government know the deatils of their work. In theory they could give details of census results before our 100 years disclosure and its causing problems because they are only two so far in for the tender. The U.K. government is playing down the threat but MP's are not so sure on the back of all the lost data recently. Thought you would like to know the situation.
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2011 Census Problems ??

Post by Montrose Budie » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:10 pm

djcrtoye wrote:Hi, just found out that there are some problems with 2011 census. It boils down to that an American company Lockheed Martin is tendering for the I.T., but according to the Patriot Act in United States they must let the U.S. government know the deatils of their work. In theory they could give details of census results before our 100 years disclosure and its causing problems because they are only two so far in for the tender. The U.K. government is playing down the threat but MP's are not so sure on the back of all the lost data recently. Thought you would like to know the situation.
Whether or not there's only two companies tendering for the 2011 census IT contract, the inability of a tenderer to guarantee absolutely that they could and would comply with the associated UK legislation (separate Acts of Parliament in England & Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) would automatically lead to that company's tender being disqualified as being fundamentally and completely unacceptably "non-compliant".

OK, so that leaves just one tenderer in there, but that's acceptable in such a situation, even although it could lead to a higher cost.

Given the timescale involved, a retendering process is maybe a possibility, but things are getting a bit tight !

MB

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Post by emanday » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:55 pm

During my time as a database developer I was usually privy to the data being held.

In every case I was required to sign a confidentiality agreement which not only prevented me from discussing the data with any unauthorised person, but also required me to take every precaution to ensure that said data would be maintained in a secure manner!

Without signing that agreement I would have been disqualified from getting the contract!

If the tendering organisation in the 1911 census case find that they cannot comply with the terms and conditions, what do they expect?
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2011 Census problems

Post by wini » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:59 am

There you are Mary,

Get busy on your tender.
ONLY JOKING!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2011 Census problems

Post by emanday » Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:17 pm

wini wrote:There you are Mary,

Get busy on your tender.
ONLY JOKING!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
WINI
Thankfully, I'm out of all that and enjoying a surprisingly busy retirement :lol:

The thought of going back to the stress of it all :shock:
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A cat leaves pawprints on your heart
McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)