census help please

[zena]

Hi,

Can someone please see if they can find this family on the census please.

I have a marriage cert for Alexander Davidson he was a police constable born 1861 according to the igi in Stirling parents were Alexander and Catherine Mclean he married Annie Mcculloch born 1863 Knockando they married in 1885 in Kelvin Glasgow.

I have Annie on all the census apart from when she married i am looking for them in 1891 and 1901 census.

Thank you Zena

[paddyscar]

Hi Zena:

In both the 1891 and 1901 census, you are able to take advantage of the newer feature 'Second person Forename'.

In 1891 a search for Alexander Davidson, aged 29-31 and Annie produces only one hit on ScotlandsPeople.

The 1901 search for Alexander Davidson, aged 39-41 and Annie produces 3 hits.

Hope these are the records you are searching.

Frances

[nelmit]

Hi,

Can someone please see if they can find this family on the census please.

I have a marriage cert for Alexander Davidson he was a police constable born 1861 according to the igi in Stirling parents were Alexander and Catherine Mclean he married Annie Mcculloch born 1863 Knockando they married in 1885 in Kelvin Glasgow.

I have Annie on all the census apart from when she married i am looking for them in 1891 and 1901 census.

Thank you Zena

Hello Zena,

Here is the family in 1861 showing Alexander born 1858 at Wiston -

Alexander Davidson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiston, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 660
Registration district: Wiston and Roberton
Civil Parish: Wiston and Roberton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Fallside
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 20
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1861_119
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Davidson 30
Alexander Davidson 3
Catherine Davidson 32
Isabella Davidson 2
Sarah Davidson 6
William Davidson 4

This could be him in 1881 -

Dwelling: Ponfeigh Place Farm
Census Place: Carmichael, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203622 GRO Ref Volume 630 EnumDist 1 Page 12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Charles WEIR M 62 M Carnwath, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer Of 319 Ac Of Which 130 Ac Arable Employing 3 Men & 2 Girls
Jane WEIR M 65 F Carstairs, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
William SCOTT U 75 M Carstairs, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Visitor
Occ: Retired Farmer
Alexander DAVIDSON U 20 M Wiston, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant
Occ: Shepherd
Thomas TENNANT U 19 M Carnwath, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Servant
Occ: Ag Lab
Thomas WEIR U 19 M Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Servant
Occ: Ag Lab
Ann PRENTICE U 18 F Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Servant
Occ: Ag Lab
Ann WEIR U 16 F Carmichael, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Servant
Occ: Ag Lab
Elizabeth GAIRDNER 14 F Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Servant
Occ: Ag Lab

I found what could be his mother living with his sister Catherine (Campbell) in 1891 at Maryhill which fits with Alexander marrying at Kelvin.

Still trying to find Annie and Alexander in 1891 & 1901. Haven't found a death for Annie in Scotland yet either.

Regards,
Annette

[nelmit]

Later -

I think I've found another two sisters, Isabella (married to Walter Grieve) and Margaret, living at Dunoon in 1891.

Regards,
Annette

[zena]

Hi Frances,

Thank you for that i checked scotlandspeople the 1891 census and the Alexander with Annie is not the right one as Annie is the daughter but thank you for looking for me.

Regards Zena

[zena]

Hi Annette,

Thank you so much that does look like the right family as Alexander's father Alexander was a shepherd. I was looking for Alexander born in Stirling according to the igi thats learnt me a lesson to check everythink.

Im still looking for them on the 1891 and 1901 census but no look so far.

Thank you Annette

Zena

[nelmit]

Hello again Zena,

A couple of questions.

What was Alexander's address when he married?

Do you know names and birth years for any of Alexander and Annie's children?

Regards,
Annette

[Jack]

Hi Zena,
Earlier my train of thought was also following Annette's...who is also up late...!
It was odd that Alexander & Annie seemed to be missing in 1891 & 1901...
...that's why i was going to ask about children too.
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Do you know what happened to Alexander & Annie?
If not, could this be them Iowa, USA?
Pity no 1890 US census to look at.
A few things going for them to be possible candidates.
Alexander in 1900 says born Dec 1860.
...IGI, in error, has your Alex's surname as David, b. 26 Dec 1860 Wiston...
...same as where Annette has him in 1861 (Ancestry error: shd be 3mos?) & 1881.
Annie (as Anna) says born Aug 1865...your Annie was b. 3 Aug...but in 1863.
...has Annie just been knocking a couple of years off her age?
The 1900 census says they were married 15yrs ago. ie 1885 - that fits.
Both children have the forenames of Alexander's & Annie's mothers.
Brief details below on these censuses.
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1900 census. Concord Township, Woodbury, Iowa.
Alex. DAVIDSON, head, b. Dec 1860, age 39, marrd 15 yrs, b Scotland, Immigrated 1889, occ. Farming,
Anna DAVIDSON, wife, b. Aug 1865, age 34, marrd 15 yrs, b. Scotland, 2 children, both living.
Lizzie DAVIDSON, daur, b Sep 1891, age 8, --------------- b Iowa.
Katie DAVIDSON, daur, b. Sep 1891, age 8, ---------------b Iowa.
John PATTISON, servant, b Dec 1877, age 25, single, b Iowa.
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1910 census. America Township, Plymouth, Iowa.
Alexander DAVIDSON, head, 49, b Scotland, Immigrated 1890, occ. Farmer.
Annie DAVIDSON, wife, 45, b Scotland, 2 children, both living.
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Elizabeth Davidson, 19, boarder, Stenographer, in Souix City, Woodbury, Iowa.
Katherine Davidson, 19, boarder, Stenographer, in Le Mars, Plymouth, Iowa.

Elizabeth looks quite good as both parents are as born Scotland, but....
Katherine i'm very unsure of as it says father b. England & mother New York...
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1920 census. Le Mars Township, Le Mars City, Plymouth, Iowa.
Alexander DAVIDSON, head, 59, b Scotland, occ. ??i'm unsure.
Anna DAVIDSON, wife, 56, b Scotland.
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There's a possible Elizabeth (Woodke) 29, in Le Mars 1920, wife of Cloyd.
But Katie is again inconclusive...
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1930 census. America Township, Le Mars City, Plymouth, Iowa.
Alexander DAVIDSON, head, 69, b Scotland, occ. Bailiff, Court House.
Annie DAVIDSON, wife, 66, b Scotland.
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Probably more to be found by doing some more research...
...immigration records?
--
Jack

[nelmit]

I only have ancestry UK but I think you're right Jack.

I didn't notice this ancestral file before indexed on LDS-

Alexander (Alec) Davidson Compact Disc #5 Pin #45480 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 26 Dec 1860

Roberton, Scotland
Death: 29 May 1937

LeMars, Iowa

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Parents
Father: Alexander Davidson Disc #5 Pin #45464
Mother: Catherine MacLean Disc #5 Pin #45465

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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Annie McCullock Disc #5 Pin #45495
Marriage: 6 Jun 1885


Submitter
David Mackay
604 N 14th st., Fort Dodge, Ia. 50501

Regards,
Annette

[Jack]

Hi Annette,
A good find.
Which leads to Katherine in the 1920 census as married to Rudolph Bartels.
Ancestral file also states that Elizabeth was married to Cloyd Woodke.
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I notice there are other submitters...
...but they have Katherine & Elizabeth as both born < Scotland > 23 Sep 1890.

Bro. & Sis. E. Northern,
71 Wrenthorpe Lane,
Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England, WF2 0PX
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Thanks - Jack