Hugh Finlay/Elizabeth Brown .....

[Margaret]

Could some kind soul please help me find where my Great Grandparents lived in Scotland, the only hint I have is Maryport, Cumberland. They were married somewhere around 1870/75 and had a daughter Elizabeth (my grannie) about 1876/77. Thanks for any help.

[Alcluith]

There is a Hugh Findlay Elizabeth Brown married 07 MAR 1854 Paisley, Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland Batch Number: 7407307
Sheet: 34 Source Call No.: 0934365.

Some possible children

GEORGE FINDLAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 FEB 1858 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

2. JEANIE FINDLAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 NOV 1872 Middle-East-West Parishes, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

3. ELIZABETH FINDLAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 FEB 1869 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

4. HUGH FINLAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 JUN 1862 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

5. JAMES FINDLAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 FEB 1858 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

6. ANNIE FINDLAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 12 APR 1871 Middle-East-West Parishes, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland

7. AGNES FINDLAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 11 DEC 1864 Middle Or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland


Note: Elizabeth born 1869 could this be granny?

[Margaret]

Hello Drew
many thanks for your help, looks like that is the correct Finlay's and yes Elizabeth looks like my Gran. I am off to the library next week, so will look up the LDS discs there. I just wasnt sure where overton was. I have now printed out a map of scotland and marking all my finds on it. Once again thanks for your help

[Andy]

This family were still in Greenock in 1881.

Dwelling: 14 Mearns St
Census Place: West Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203570 GRO Ref Volume 564-1 EnumDist 23 Page 22
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Hugh FINLAY M 50 M Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Baker
Elizabeth FINLAY M 47 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Wife
George FINLAY U 23 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Baker
Isabella FINLAY U 21 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Hugh FINLAY U 18 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Baker
Thos FINLAY U 14 M Gourock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth FINLAY U 12 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Jeanie FINLAY U 8 F Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Robert FINLAY U 5 M Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Son

Overton is a small "District" in Greenock, originally the whole area was a fairly large Paper Mill with community housing for the workers. My G-G Grandfather, John Riddell lived and worked there as a joiner for a while. He too had moved from Paisley.

When did the family move to Maryport, Cumberland?

[Margaret]

Hello Andy and Alc
Would you beleive the day I put my question I recieved a copy of my Grannies Birth Entry, so sad to say they arent my Finlay's after all. My Gran was born 30/3 1877 at 10 Wemyss Row, Overton and her Dad Hugh was a coal miner. Andy you aksed about moving from Maryport, Hugh and Elizabeth Brown were married in Maryport Cumberland around 1871 (that was the only info that I had) many thanks for trying to help me. Guess it is back to the drawing board and searching some more

[Alcluith]

Ther is a posting on the LDS for Hugh Finlay and Elizabeth married in Cumberland with Hugh born Ireland.

There is also a post for Elizabeth born 1877 in Wishaw Lanark. There is an Overton there, which would be likely as Hugh was a miner.


This looks like the family in question 1881 census

Dwelling: 9 Greenfield Rows
Census Place: Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203693 GRO Ref Volume 647 EnumDist 18 Page 24
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Hugh FINLAY M 34 M Killiben, Ireland
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Elizabeth FINLAY M 33 F Cumberland, England
Rel: Wife
Occ: Coal Miners Wife
Thos. FINLAY U 11 M Cumberland, England
Rel: Son
Margt. FINLAY 8 F Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
David FINLAY 6 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Elizabeth FINLAY 4 F Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Agnes FINLAY 2 F Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
David FINLAY U 21 M Kircubbon, Ireland
Rel: Relative
Occ: Coal Miner
John CLARK U 30 M Derry Movenna
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Coal Miner
Wm. HISLOP M 35 M Belfast, Ireland
Rel: Boarder

The oldest son Thomas's age would be in line with the marriage date you have.

unusual that David Finlay is listed as a relative and not brother would suspect that he was possible Hugh's cousin.

Hope this helps

[Andy]

Oh well, in that case.

Hugh Findlay came from Kilcubbin, Down. He was born about 1846.

He was already married by 1871 (IGI says 1869) but lodging in Workington listed as a Coal Miner. Can't see Elizabeth and Thomas in 1871 in England.

In 1881 the family are back in Scotland:

Dwelling: 9 Greenfield Rows
Census Place: Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203693 GRO Ref Volume 647 EnumDist 18 Page 24
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Hugh FINLAY M 34 M Killiben, Ireland
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Elizabeth FINLAY M 33 F Cumberland, England
Rel: Wife
Occ: Coal Miners Wife
Thos. FINLAY U 11 M Cumberland, England
Rel: Son
Margt. FINLAY 8 F Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
David FINLAY 6 M Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Elizabeth FINLAY 4 F Wishaw, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Agnes FINLAY 2 F Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
David FINLAY U 21 M Kircubbon, Ireland
Rel: Relative
Occ: Coal Miner
John CLARK U 30 M Derry Movenna
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Coal Miner
Wm. HISLOP M 35 M Belfast, Ireland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Coal Miner

[Margaret]

Hello Andy and Drew
Your are gems, thank you for all this help. Yes this looks like the right Finlay's at last and I never thought to look for them in ireland, always believed that we were scots through and through Polmadie Street has been mentioned by family so now I know where it fits in. In 2007 I am coming to Scotland so hopefully will be able to see all these places and check out a few cemetries along the way. (that part I havent told my husband)
Thanks again for all your help

[Margaret]

Hello Drew and Andy
Not sure where my head was when I replied, think it was just the joy of finding another piece to my puzzle. When I mentioned Polmadie Street I meant Greenfields Row think I will blame old age.