Help with census on Ancestry anyone?

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:00 pm

Hi to all at TS,

I am looking for help from anyone with access to Ancestry especially census info. I am trying to trace back my Rankin side of the family to see where they originated. William below is the farthest I can go back. The second John born 9/3/1844 is my gt gt grandfather. William and Mary Adams were married 11/8/1837 in Calton Glasgow. I have the parish record but this is all the info it gives. (Her name is Adam rather than Adams on it).
I thought the 1851 census would be a good starting point but found nothing in the Freecen which matched the names. On SP there are a lot of William and Mary Rankin’s in Glasgow and it would take loads of tries never mind credits to look at them all.
On John Rankin’s death cert it has his father William as bricklayer – also the F stands for Ferguson and appears throughout the family.

Husband
William F. Rankin
Birth: About 1811 Of, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Wife
Mary Adams
Birth: About 1814 Of, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

children
Lynn Rankin Pedigree Male
Birth: 20 NOV 1837 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

John Rankin Pedigree Male
Birth: 04 JUL 1840 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

John Rankin Pedigree Male
Birth: 09 MAR 1844 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Ann Rankin Pedigree Female
Birth: 04 JAN 1845 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Marion Rankin Pedigree Female
Birth: 04 SEP 1848 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Mary Rankin Pedigree Female
Birth: 01 OCT 1850 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Any help in finding the same family together would be great – I would then look at the SP census results.

Thanks
Ailsa

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:10 pm

Hi Ailsa
Not sure if you and/or others are aware of this, but you may be able to access Ancestry for free at your local library as many libraries now offer this to members - always worth a try!

Best wishes
Lesley

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:40 pm

Thanks Lesley i will bear this in mind.

Ailsa

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:58 pm

Hi All,
Someone kindly pm'd me and pointed me in the right direction but for
once the census i purchased does not really give me much to go on. Usually it tells you more detail about the area in Glasgow. This one does not have a street name - it just says in the parish of St John burgh of Glasgow.
William head marr 35 bricklayer born Lanarkshire Glasgow
Mary wife marr 33 " "
Ann daug 11 " "
Jean " 9 " "
John son 6 " "
Marion daug 2 " "
Janet " 5mnth " "

Anyway since writing the above - i had to top up my credits and took a chance with a William F Rankin's death cert who died in 1892 age 76 but for some reason died in Cambuslang not Glasgow. It was him - bricklayer widower of Mary Adam and gives me his father George (dairyman) and Agnes m.s FERGUSON so that's where the name comes from - hooray.
The witness was a son in law looks like John Horn.
Just goes to show that sometimes you have to take a chance.

Regards to all,

Ailsa

elisabeth · Post by **elisabeth** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:24 pm

Hi Ailsa
You may not need it now but here's the information from Ancestry.
In 1851 they are at 22 Moore Street, Glasgow St.John
William Rankin 35-bricklayer b. Glasgow
Mary Rankin 33-b.Glasgow
Ann Rankin 11
Jean Rankin 9
John Rankin 6
Marion Rankin 2
Janet Rankin 5 Mo -all b. Glasgow

In 1861 they are at 8 Mckechnie Street,Bridgton,Glasgow

William Rankin 45-bricklayer
Mary Rankin 44
Annie Rankin 22-power loom weaver
John Rankin (occupation “tron finisher” according to Ancestry)16
Marrion Rankin 12
Janet Rankin 10
Mary Rankin 7
Agnes Rankin 1
Regards,
Elisabeth

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:32 pm

Thanks Elisabeth,
I did have the 1851census as you know but not the street name. Thanks for the 1861. No Jean (who could have left home or died) she would have been 19, and two new children Mary and Agnes. It makes it clearer now for other censuses.
For your info the occupation for John is Iron Turner.

Regards

Ailsa

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:00 pm

crayspond wrote:Thanks Elisabeth,
I did have the 1851census as you know but not the street name. Thanks for the 1861. No Jean (who could have left home or died) she would have been 19, and two new children Mary and Agnes. It makes it clearer now for other censuses.
For your info the occupation for John is Iron Turner.

Regards

Ailsa

Looks like it was her who married John Horn Ailsa-

Results for: Father: John Horn, Mother: Jane Rankin

1. JAMES HORN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 31 DEC 1862 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
2. JANE HORN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 07 NOV 1873 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
3. JOHN HORN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 21 JUL 1871 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
4. WILLIAM RANKIN HORN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 30 MAR 1869 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
5. ELISABETH HORN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 28 FEB 1867 Hutchesontown, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
6. JANE ADAM HORN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 21 OCT 1874 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Regards,
Annette

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:48 am

Following from Annette's post
John Horn married Jane Rankin 31 Oct 1862 Carlton, Glasgow

This looks to be 1871
Reg No 652/3 Calderbank Old Monkland Lanark
21 Post office Row
John Horn 32 head born Kilsyth Stirlingshire Coal Miner
Jane Horn 27 wife born Glasgow
James Horn 8
William Horn 2
(missing Elizabeth b. 1867)

John Horn (iron puddler) age 23 is living with his mother Elizabeth also Janet Horn, James Horn and David Kerr - 18 Shamrock St Glasgow Govan Lanark in 1861. I cannot easily see Jane/Jean in 1861

Trish

crayspond · Post by **crayspond** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:46 am

Many thanks to Trish and Annette and other helpers for all your input. I have filed this extra "Horn " info away for future tree research.
My aim for the moment is to go back as far as i can on my mother's paternal lines including their wives details.
My mother is 83 and lives in Glasgow and her only brother is 85 and lives in Canada. I have bought some charts and i am trying to finish them soon for obvious reasons!
I have nearly finished one half of their parents - the Hardies - i got back to John Hardie born Dallas Moray22/12/1786 and his wife Janet Gilfillan - they married 31/5/1813 but i cannot find Janet's birth details.
The other side - The Rankin family - who you are kindly helping me at the moment is nearly there. I now will be looking for William Ferguson Rankin's wife Mary Adam or Adams birth and death details.
So i better go and do some housework and clear my head.

Regards

Ailsa