Census help please

[crayspond]

Hi Everybody,

Just been doing a bit of detective work on my grandfather Thomas Beveridge who married my grandmother in 1920 when he was 35 she was 34 and she had been married before.
I always wondered if he had been married before but have no way of finding out.
Can some kind soul have a look at this census return for me please - His father was David Beveridge but he never married his mother Catherine Wright. She went on to marry John McPhee and Thomas took his name (he was on a previous census - which i can't find now!! as Thomas McPhee) if this is the correct one below it means he suddenly reverted back to using his real name - could he maybe have been already married to someone else i wonder ??

1 1901 MCPHEE THOMAS M 16 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW/LANARK 644/11 035/11 018

Much appreciated if any one can - i can only buy my credits throught the SP site as i live in England and go through the 30 credits too quickly.

Thanks

Ailsa

[AndrewP]

Just been doing a bit of detective work on my grandfather Thomas Beveridge who married my grandmother in 1920 when he was 35 she was 34 and she had been married before.
I always wondered if he had been married before but have no way of finding out.

Hi Ailsa,

Their marriage certificate should tell you if he was a bachelor, widower or divorcee. His death certificate should also name all of his spouses, assuming the person registering the death knew the information.

You may have to purchase some SP credits and view these documents for yourself and the census record you listed above to be as sure as you can be of his marital status.

All the best,

AndrewP

[LesleyB]

Hi Ailsa

i can only buy my credits throught the SP site as i live in England

I also buy my credits through the SP site, even though I live in Scotland. I expect there are a lot of others in the same boat.

Best wishes
Lesley

[crayspond]

Hi Andrew,

I have all the info about Thomas Beveridge - i have purchased his marriage cert and death cert from SP and most all of his ancestors certs as well. No where does it mention another wife.
Since my last post i have found the info regarding the 1901 census. He is living at 120 South Wellington St Hutchesontown Govan under Thomas McPhee iron dresser age 16 - so i have in effect answered my own question!
There is a big gap as to what happened to him from 1901 until he marries my grandmother in 1920 age 34 and why he reverted to his birth name. I had a feeling he may have been married under Thomas McPhee. It would have his mother and father's name on any marriage cert, but there are too many Thomas McPhee's to look at around that time - If i was getting 60 credits for my 6 pounds a time i might have looked at a few out of curiosity.
It looks like i will have to wait until the 1911 census comes out and then see where he turns up then.

Regards
Ailsa

[caljam371]

From Ancestry -

1901 Scotland Census
about Thos McPhee
Name: Thos McPhee
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil parish: Glasgow Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 120 So Willington St
Occupation: Iron Dresser
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 74
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1901_309

Household Members: Name Age
John McPhee 38
Catherine McPhee 36
Thos McPhee 16
John McPhee 7
Patrick McPhee 4
Catherine McPhee 2
Malcolm McPhee 1

I'm enjoying the free access to the 1901 census on Ancestry from WDYTYA mag

[trish1]

Hi Ailsa

I had a similar situation with a family in England - but came to the conclusion that the change of name simply related to who was filling in the census form and the man realising what name was in the register/baptism records. It could also relate to such things as arguments with the step father and not wanting to have his name.

There may be more clues when the 1911 is available.

Trish

[LesleyB]

Hi Ailsa

If i was getting 60 credits for my 6 pounds a time

Just to save confusion and incase anyone else thinks this is the normal going rate at certain libraries in Scotland, it is not - it is a one-off, first time only offer. To take advantage of this offer you have to sign up with a new SP account at a library, with a username NOT of your own choosing, and if you already have an SP account you cannot merge all your saved documents and searches, you would need to keep them in separate accounts.

Thereafter you can purchase vouchers for 30 credits at a cost of £4.80 at the library.

Best wishes
Lesley

[crayspond]

Hi to All,
Thanks caljam371 for the 1901 census info from Ancestry.
Trish -re the name change - it will be interesting to see which name he was using by 1911. He had not married my grandmother yet but hopefully he will still be living in the same area with some of the family so i will be able to find him.
I do appreciate the comments about the libraries and i won't be opening any other accounts, but i think maybe SP could have another think about the usage of the credits. Maybe 3 credits for viewing the census might be an idea? just a thought.

Ailsa

[Currie]

Hello Ailsa,

I think I’d prefer a reduction in the price of the search. After all if you go to the supermarket you don’t have to pay to see what’s on the shelves. They don’t have the goods in plain, unmarked boxes so that you don’t even know if there’s anything inside until you hand over some cash. If you go window shopping they don’t have them covered up demanding money to see the goods for sale, that’s if there actually are any.

All the best,
Alan

[crayspond]

Hi Alan,
I see your point. Although when the birth, marriage etc certificate is correct it is so much cheaper to download and print it than it would be to buy the extract from the Records office.
Maybe SP could charge 1 or 2 credits to see part of the cert i.e the names of the parties and then if you want to continue to download and print you would then pay the remaining credits.
I wonder what other people think ?

Ailsa