Hello,
i have been searching my Aitken family for ages,
i have a problem with the 1901 census...
my g grandad's first marriage
Charles Bruce Aitken 1868-1942 m Amelia Louise Mason 1873 – 1912
in 1895, they had 1 son (as far as i know)
Charles John Bruce Aitken 1896-1902 Bute, Scotland
this is the 1901 census
6, sutherland st, Lanarkshire
Chas B Aitken 32/head absent son (head)
Officer Mercantile Marine
Amelia L Aitken 28/daughter in law
Chas JB Aitken 5/grandson
Margt Aitken 20/daur
Alfred AJ Hall 31/son in law
Capt HLI Res of officer
Eleanor J Hall(Eleanor J Aitken) 30/daur
spouse Alfred AJ
father Chas B
Tenoar MJ Hall 4/gran daur
father Alfred AJ
mother Eleanor J
Jno Mason 25/visitor
ED 14
Roll CSSCT1901_333
i have searched for this document on Scotlands People and spent a fortune,
i cant find it!
On Ancestry you cant see the original doc, im sure there must be
errors on the transcript as nothing seems right!
How can Chas B Aitken age 32 have a daughter aged 20?
Why is Amelia Aitken is down as daughter in law to the Head
when i have their marriage cert?
nothing seems right, i need to see the original doc, having spent 48quid already on Scotlands People i dont wish to keep spending money with no results.
so any help would be great, is there an easier way to find this doc?
i have all the info and i dont mind paying for the RIGHT one, lol
thanks, kaz, x
1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
Hi Kazz,
That is an odd one. It seems (to me) that Chas B Aitken, Margt Aitken and Eleanor J Hall are all children of the absent Head. Do you know if they are siblings?
All the best,
Sarah
That is an odd one. It seems (to me) that Chas B Aitken, Margt Aitken and Eleanor J Hall are all children of the absent Head. Do you know if they are siblings?
All the best,
Sarah
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
Ah yes, I see in 1881 that they are siblings-- big family!
1881
44 Hillhead Street, Partick, Hillhead, Lanarkshire
Thos A Aitken, 42, Head, born Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Secretary & Manager of Oil Co Sim Of
Jane S Aitken, 39, Wife, born Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire
Thos A Aitken, 17, Son, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Commercial Clerk
Charles B Aitken, 12, Son, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
Eleanor I Aitken, 10, Daur, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
Mary A Aitken, 8, Daur, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
James Mc I Aitken, 6, Son, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
Jane M Aitken, 5, Daur, born Greenock, Renfrewshire
William S Aitken, 4, Son, born Greenock, Renfrewshire
George E Aitken, 1,, Son, born Hillhead, Lanarkshire
Margaret Aitken, 2 Mo, Daur, born Hillhead, Lanarkshire
Margaret Murray, 20, Sister-in-law, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Mantle Maker
Sarah Black, 19, Servant, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Domestic Serv General
Catherine Leisk, 21, Servant, born Burra Island, Shetland, Domestic Serv Nurse
So it seems that the house in 1901 belonged to the father (or mother) who was thus the "head," but he or she was absent on census night. Doesn't help you find it on SP, but explains the problems you found with the transcription.
Sarah
1881
44 Hillhead Street, Partick, Hillhead, Lanarkshire
Thos A Aitken, 42, Head, born Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Secretary & Manager of Oil Co Sim Of
Jane S Aitken, 39, Wife, born Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire
Thos A Aitken, 17, Son, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Commercial Clerk
Charles B Aitken, 12, Son, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
Eleanor I Aitken, 10, Daur, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
Mary A Aitken, 8, Daur, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
James Mc I Aitken, 6, Son, born Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scholar
Jane M Aitken, 5, Daur, born Greenock, Renfrewshire
William S Aitken, 4, Son, born Greenock, Renfrewshire
George E Aitken, 1,, Son, born Hillhead, Lanarkshire
Margaret Aitken, 2 Mo, Daur, born Hillhead, Lanarkshire
Margaret Murray, 20, Sister-in-law, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Mantle Maker
Sarah Black, 19, Servant, born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Domestic Serv General
Catherine Leisk, 21, Servant, born Burra Island, Shetland, Domestic Serv Nurse
So it seems that the house in 1901 belonged to the father (or mother) who was thus the "head," but he or she was absent on census night. Doesn't help you find it on SP, but explains the problems you found with the transcription.
Sarah
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
Back again after searching the 1901 census on SP. You're right-- I don't see any of that household in the index. Even those with easy surnames like "Hall"
Definitely worth a contact form to SP-- you have wasted enough credits on this one! Let's hope they refund some of them to you [-o<
All the best,
Sarah
Definitely worth a contact form to SP-- you have wasted enough credits on this one! Let's hope they refund some of them to you [-o<
All the best,
Sarah
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
Nope doesn't seem to be there right enough. I even searched for the neighbours at No. 4 and No. 8 but they don't appear to be indexed either.SarahND wrote:Back again after searching the 1901 census on SP. You're right-- I don't see any of that household in the index. Even those with easy surnames like "Hall"![]()
Definitely worth a contact form to SP-- you have wasted enough credits on this one! Let's hope they refund some of them to you [-o<
All the best,
Sarah
Regards,
Annette
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
Thank you very much Sarah an Annette, x
yes they were a big family, Thomas Alexander Aitken died 20/09/1893,
so the mother (head) Jane S was absent, i thought maybe she re married but then she would not
be the head anymore, perhaps she was in Hospital.
ive practically given up with SP lol ill see if i can find her on ancestry.
I will add any more info i find just in case anyone else is searching the same family,
thank you again for your help,
kaz, x
yes they were a big family, Thomas Alexander Aitken died 20/09/1893,
so the mother (head) Jane S was absent, i thought maybe she re married but then she would not
be the head anymore, perhaps she was in Hospital.
ive practically given up with SP lol ill see if i can find her on ancestry.
I will add any more info i find just in case anyone else is searching the same family,
thank you again for your help,
kaz, x
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
Just a guess, this could be Jane...
1901
248 Scotland St
Jane Aitken 61/abt 1840/Aunt/Housekeeper/Glasgow, Lanark
John Urie/33/abt 1868/Head/Labourer (engineers)/Glasgow, Lanark
Helen R Urie/35/abt 1866/Wife/Galashiels, Roxburghshire
George Urie/6/abt 1895/Glasgow, Lanark
Jane C Urie/5/abt 1896/Daur/Glasgow, Lanark
Robert M Harrison/24/abt 1877/Occupier/Patternmaker (wood)/Glasgow, Lanark
William Harrison/26/abt 1875/Brother/Brassmoulder/Glasgow, Lanark
ED: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_321
1901
248 Scotland St
Jane Aitken 61/abt 1840/Aunt/Housekeeper/Glasgow, Lanark
John Urie/33/abt 1868/Head/Labourer (engineers)/Glasgow, Lanark
Helen R Urie/35/abt 1866/Wife/Galashiels, Roxburghshire
George Urie/6/abt 1895/Glasgow, Lanark
Jane C Urie/5/abt 1896/Daur/Glasgow, Lanark
Robert M Harrison/24/abt 1877/Occupier/Patternmaker (wood)/Glasgow, Lanark
William Harrison/26/abt 1875/Brother/Brassmoulder/Glasgow, Lanark
ED: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_321
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
I think it's more likely to be this one at Sutherland St, Helensburgh.
Agnes Orr 54
James R Orr 24
Margaret N L Orr 23
Agnes R R Orr 20
John Mcl Orr 18
Jane Aitken 58 visitor born Port Glasgow
William Lunan 34
Katherine Lunan 30
Esther Lunan 24
Thomas M Lunan 23
Alice M M Lunan 17
Regards,
Annette
Agnes Orr 54
James R Orr 24
Margaret N L Orr 23
Agnes R R Orr 20
John Mcl Orr 18
Jane Aitken 58 visitor born Port Glasgow
William Lunan 34
Katherine Lunan 30
Esther Lunan 24
Thomas M Lunan 23
Alice M M Lunan 17
Regards,
Annette
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
I won't spoil it for you in case you haven't seen it but I nearly choked on my cup of tea
when I saw Ancestry's transcription of Jane's father's occupation in 1871!!
Regards,
Annette
Regards,
Annette
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Re: 1901 census Charles Bruce Aitken 1868
Annettenelmit wrote:I won't spoil it for you in case you haven't seen it but I nearly choked on my cup of teawhen I saw Ancestry's transcription of Jane's father's occupation in 1871!!
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I went and checked her marriage to Thomas Alexander Aitken in the IGI to see what her maiden name was and saw that it was Murray. No obvious birth in Port Glasgow, however. So where are you finding her father's name in order to check
Having lots of trouble with Ancestry tonight-- doesn't want to let me go from page to page without trying 4 or 5 times at each step
(My excuse for being thick headed)
Regards,
Sarah
Later: Whew! Finally got there I think... Was he James, age 55 in 1871, born Castleton, Roxburghshire?