Andrew McLean/Mary Davidson ms Downie.....

[StewL]

I was doing some sideways searching, or so I thought. I had a look at Andrew McLean my gggrandmothers second husband. I re-examined his death certificate and discovered that he had also been married before to Margaret Lockhart who died in 1861.
When I looked at his death in 1892, the penny dropped that he had raised my ggrandmother Mary Davidson who was born in 1856. My ggrandmother Mary Davidson was born in 1856, father Thomas Davidson GGgrandmothers Mary’ Downie's first husband.

Margaret McLean was born in 1861 to Andrew and Margaret.

The information that I have so far is:

Ist marriage:
Andrew McLean b. Abt 1823 Cambeltown Argyle. D 6 Jan 1892 Coatbridge Lanark.
M. May 1846 New Monkland, (IGI extracted record says 1847?)
Margaret Lockhart B. Abt 1826 Rutherglen. D 30 Dec 1861 Old Monklands Lanark.

Andrews Parents;
Duncan McLean
Elizabeth McLachlan

Margarets Parent;
John Lockhart
Jean Graham

2nd Marriage
Andrew McLean
M. 26 Nov 1862 Coatbridge Lanark
Mary Davidson ms Downie B. Abt 1836 Coatbridge Lanark, D. 23 Dec 1908 Monklands Lanark.

Mary’s parents:
William Downie
Mary Jaffray or Jeffrey.

I tried to have a look at the 1871 census for Andrew McLean in the areas I thought they might be residing, but the two I got for Coatbridge and Glasgow were not the family I was hoping to find.

James McLean born in 1855 at Rosehill colliery. His BC tells that he was the fifth child, two boys living, two girls dead.

I suppose what I am trying to find out is:
Did the children from the first marriage stay with Andrew and Mary?
Did they have any more children?

I was hoping the 1871 census might have given me a clue, but I don’t know where else to look at this stage. As I thought later census data may not show any of the older children still at home.

I have to admit I am a bit new to searching on censuses, so any help in this direction would be appreciated.

[Jean Jeanie]

Hi StewL

I don't know if you have this info, but this looks like Andew and Mary in 1881. Also James who ws born in 1855.

Dwelling: Salisburgh
Census Place: Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203704 GRO Ref Volume 655-1 EnumDist 3 Page 2
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Andrew MC LEAN M 60 M Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Ironstone Miner
Mary MC LEAN M 44 F New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Robert MC LEAN U 18 M Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Ironstone Miner
Hugh MC LEAN 16 M Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Ironstone Miner
Samuel MC LEAN 12 M Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Colin MC LEAN 10 M Bothewell, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Agnes MC LEAN 7 F Bothewell, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Stewart MC LEAN 4 M Shotts, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son

This looks like a likely candidate for James born 1855.

Dwelling: 8 Canning Street
Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203666 GRO Ref Volume 644-10 EnumDist 49 Page 11
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
James MC LEAN M 26 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Engine Blacksmith
Mary MC LEAN M 26 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Joseph MC LEAN 1 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son

Jean

[StewL]

Hello Jean

Thanks very much for the 1881 census information.
I had not checked that census. As I knew my GtGrandmother was already married by then, and had twin boys in 1879
Perhaps using this logic was a bit of a mistake, as it appears my GtGtgrandmother had a few more children (6) after she remarried Andrew, and that is the information I was hoping to find.

I have a couple of possible ages for Andrew from his MC and DC, but hopefully the age on the census might be a bit closer to the truth. I hope

I did notice that there was another Robert MCLean born in 1863 to Andrew and Mary, the first Robert was born in 1857 to Andrew and Margaret.
I would assume as the surname is the same that the first Robert died?
Not worried about the two Margarets, they have different surnames

I tried to post this reply earlier today my time but the site crashed I believe.

Once again thanks Jean

Ps. Mary Downie-Davidson-McLean drowned in Monklands Canal on 23 Dec 1908.

[Jean Jeanie]

Hi Stewl

It was quite common when a child died to name a subsequent child with the same name.

You could look for the first Robert's death between 1857 and 1864 as this would show in the statutory records on Scotlandspeople.

Jean

[Jack]

Hi Stewie,

Sorry can't help with 1871, but do you have these earlier censuses?
If not, then please say and i'll get full details at some point. [details now added]
--
1851 cens 652 (633) Ed 8 p 23 (Old Monkland)
Back St, Coathill Village.
Andrew McLEAN, head, marr, 24, coal miner, b Campbeltown, ARL
Margaret McLEAN, wife, 23, -------- b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew McLEAN, son, 4, ------ b New Monkland
Elizabeth McLEAN, daur, 3mo, --- b New Monkland
Sarah WALKER, servant, u/m 19, general servant, b Ireland
&
1861 cens 652-2 Ed 10 p 14 (Old Monkland)
66 Rosehill Village.
Andrew McLEAN, head, marr, 37, coal miner, b Campbeltown, ARL
Mary[sic] McLEAN, wife, 33, ------ b Glasgow, LKS [it IS as Mary]
Andrew McLEAN, son, 14, coal miner, b New Monkland, LKS
Duncan McLEAN, son, 8, scholar, b Old Monkland, LKS
James McLEAN, son, 5, scholar, b Old Monkland, LKS
==
1861 cens 652-2 Ed 12 p 5 (Old Monkland)
Langs Land, Langloan Village.
Thomas DAVIDSON, head, marr, 25, coal miner, b Barony, Glasgow, LKS
Mary DAVIDSON, wife, 23, ------- b New Monkland, LKS
William DAVIDSON, son, 6, scholar, b Old Monkland, LKS
Mary DAVIDSON, daur, 4, ------- b Old Monkland, LKS
--
Jack

[StewL]

Hello Jack

No I dont have those census details and they would be appreciated at a time that suits you.
It would seem that Andrew may have been a bit lose with the truth over his age

Ah! transcription errors

Thanks Jean
I will have a look for the wains death within those dates very shortly, very possibly tonight or over the weekend.

[Jack]

Hi Stewie,

Census details added to earlier post - and not a transcription error, Margaret was as Mary.
Some censuses have Margaret as Magt, which can at times looks like Mary - but not this time!

Jack

[StewL]

Hello Jack

Thank you very much for the information, it is very much appreciated.

Possible transcription error:
I am not too worried about the change from Margaret to Mary, I currently do transcriptions for FREEBMD, and I have made an error like that myself.
Also as we all know in Scotland, whats in a name, they change like the wind

As for 1861 Rosehill village, I have certificates with Rosehall collliery for Andrews marriage in 1862 and Margarets death in 1861.
Bank street also pops up.

Once again Jack thank you