Can't find on 1881 census .....

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Cathy
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Can't find on 1881 census .....

Post by Cathy » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:18 pm

Hi All,
need some fresh eyes. I can't find Margaret Cairney or her parents on 81 census. Tried many spellings. Can anyone help?

B.Cert. copy fron SRO 644/02 1995
1872 Births in the District of High Church in the Burgh of Glasgow.
1872 7th September 8h 0m AM. Margaret Cairney, 116 Havannah, Glasgow.
Hugh Cairney, F--- Hammerman and Mary Craiton, married 1867 June 8th Glasgow. Informant Mary Cairney, her X mark, mother. Witn. Peter Ferguson, Regr.

Cathy
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MaryB
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Post by MaryB » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:33 pm

Have checked the national index for the whole of the UK, and this is what comes up


CAIRNS, Maggie Serv <1867> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margt. GDau <1868> Lana Dunb
CAIRNEY, Margaret Dau <1869> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Inmt <1869> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Maggie Dau <1870> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1870> Lana Lana
CAIRNEY, Margaret Dau <1871> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Maggie Dau <1871> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margeret Dau <1871> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margret Dau <1871> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1872> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret A. Dau <1872> Scot Nthu
MC CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1872> Lana Lana
KEARNS, Margaret GNiec <1873> Lana Lana
CAIRNEY, Maggie Dau <1874> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1874> Lana Argy
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1874> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1874> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1875> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1876> Lana Lana
CAIRNEY, Margaret Dau <1877> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1877> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1877> Lana Lana
CAIRNS, Margaret Dau <1877> Lana Lana
KEARNEY, Margaret Dau <1877> Lana Lana


the 2nd last row is place of birth and the last row is the census place
Black Isle - Beaton Bethune Campbell
Inverness - Mackintosh
Aberdeen - Mitchell Leslie
Ireland - Cosgrove McGuire
Southshields - Patterson/Pattieson Campbell Sloan
Greenock - Boyle McPhail Blair McKechnie Clark

ellenavon
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Post by ellenavon » Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:46 pm

Hi Cathy

Could this be Margaret & sister without parents? (Later Edit: Sorry, didn't notice possible mother Mary on there, although she is shwoing as unmarried.)

The street name is spelt Havannah on some of the other dwellings.

Can't find 116 so far on the disc.

Dwelling: 2 Harannah St
Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203646 GRO Ref Volume 644-5 EnumDist 39 Page 13
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
John KERR U 42 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Military Pensioner
Ann KERR U 29 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Neice
Occ: Cotton Mill Worker
Mary KEARNS U 31 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Neice
Occ: Washerwoman
William DOUGLAS 15 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Nephew
Occ: Message Boy
John DOUGLAS 10 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Nephew
Occ: Scholar
Archibald DOUGLAS 5 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Nephew
Alexander DOUGLAS 3 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Nephew
Margaret KEARNS 8 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Grand Neice
Occ: Scholar
Sarah KEARNS 5 F
Rel: Grand Neice

Regards

Ellen.
Researching: Grant; MacIntosh; Wright; Parley; Souter; Jaffray; Sangster; all North East & Speyside and Sutherland, Glasgow then Sutherland County; Buchanan, Stirlingshire; Lamond, North East; Stronach, Morayshire to name but a few!

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Post by Cathy » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:12 pm

Hi Mary and Ellen,
thank you both.
Havanna Street looks good. Both the parents died there. Thanks again,
Cathy

Skene Dhu
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Can`t find on the 1881 census

Post by Skene Dhu » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:49 pm

Hi Cathy,
On the 1881 census at 17, Adelphi St., Barony, Glasgow, there is a James Cairns (34) and his wife Mary Cairns Brobi, they have an 11 year old Maggie Cairns. James worked as a Drop hammer operator / or sometimes known as Drop Forge operators, sometimes they just refered to themselves as Hammermen. Another possiblity is that Hugh`s real name was James, and was called Hugh, by the family (my name is John but my parents called me Ian (Gaelic for John).

Worth a try
John

Skene Dhu
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Can`t find on the 1881 census

Post by Skene Dhu » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:15 pm

Hi again Cathy,
On reflection my last post can`t be the same family, the parents of that Margaret were James Cairns and Mary Brodie.

Also, looking at the info for Havannah St., I would expect the mother of Margaret and Sarah Kearns to be the Mary Kearns (31), niece of the occupier John Kerr, and she was unmarried, and your Hugh Cairney & Mary Craten were married 28 Jun 1867 @ Calton, Glasgow.

Do you know when Hugh`s wife died, as there is a Hugh Cairney (47), Ireland, Widower, Boiler Maker at : 6a, North Clyde St., Glasgow

Also discovered Havannah St. was opened in 1763 and named by Gavin Williamson in honour of the capture of Cuba (he was in the naval contingent), and his prize money built the first tenement there, it later disappeared when the College Railway Station was extended.

Good hunting
John

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Post by Cathy » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:58 am

Hi John,
thanks for reply.
Mary Craton (Crighton) died 1896 at 41, Havannah, and Hugh died
1889 at 57 Havannah.
I have found that when is says unmarried on a census, that this is not always true. It may have been mistranscribed.
Cathy