Hulloa,
Could you please help me find the following people in the 1851 census?
William Buchan - aged c. 45. He was married but not living with his wife and children. On his son's marriage certificate in 1852 he was down as being a commerical traveller. William's wife was called Jean and she was 35 in 1841, and was born in Lanarkshire.
Any help would be good.
Yours, Henry.
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Jack
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Re 1851 census
Hi Henry,
Welcome to TalkingScot!
I take it that the family are in Lanarkshire 1851?
Was William abt 45 born Crieff, Perthshire?
What are the children's names? ages?
Ta - Jack
Welcome to TalkingScot!
I take it that the family are in Lanarkshire 1851?
Was William abt 45 born Crieff, Perthshire?
What are the children's names? ages?
Ta - Jack
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Hello Jack,
Thank you for replying so quickly.
I'm afraid I don't know where William was born; his wife Jean was born in Lanarkshire, which is where she and her children were living in 1841 (William wasn't with them). Their children were as follows:
John Buchan b. c. 1829
William Buchan b. c. 1831
Jean Buchan b. c. 1836
Matthew Buchan b. c. 1839
Thank you!
Henry.
Thank you for replying so quickly.
I'm afraid I don't know where William was born; his wife Jean was born in Lanarkshire, which is where she and her children were living in 1841 (William wasn't with them). Their children were as follows:
John Buchan b. c. 1829
William Buchan b. c. 1831
Jean Buchan b. c. 1836
Matthew Buchan b. c. 1839
Thank you!
Henry.
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Re Buchan 1851
Hi Henry,
Sorry for all these questions, but i'm having trouble tracing Jean (shd be Mary?) and family in Lanarkshire 1851.
Which son got married in, was it 1852? his wife's name? where?
Do you have any marriage details etc for the other children?
This census gives 3 BUCHAN children with the right names & ages....
Presuming you did mean to say Mary 35 (and not Jean) in 1841?
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1841/641 Place: Douglas-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 4 Folio: 4 Page: 2.
Civil Parish: Douglas Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Douglas
Address: Parisholm
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WILLISON John M 30 Farmer Lanarkshire
WILLISON Jean F 60 Lanarkshire
WILLISON Mary F 35 Lanarkshire
WILLISON Marion F 25 Lanarkshire
WILLISON Elizabeth F 20 Lanarkshire
WILLISON James M 15 Lanarkshire
BUCHAN William M 10 Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHAN Jean F 5 Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHAN Matthew M 2 Outside Census County (1841)
BRAIDWOOD Janet F 25 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
MCLELLAND Janet F 15 Female Servant Lanarkshire
HENDERSON Mary F 35 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
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Jack
ps, later; the William Buchan born Crieff i'd hoped might be yours was actually a Free Church minister in Hamilton, Lanarkshire.
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pps, later on; i think you did mean Mary, but still can't see the BUCHAN children in 1851 (or 1861) Lanarkshire.
I dare say you'll know of this marriage etc.
WILLIAM BUCHAN
MARY WILLISON
Marriage: 28 JUN 1828 Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
JOHN BUCHAN; Birth: 10 JUL 1829 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
WILLIAM WILLISON BUCHAN; Birth: 20 JUN 1833 St Cuthberts Blotter, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
JEAN BUCHAN; b ~1836 outside Lanarkshire; Edinburgh?
MATTHEW BUCHAN; Christening: 21 APR 1839 Bristo Associate Congregation, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
[there is also an LDS submission for a William Mathew Buchan for the same day]
I'd presume Matthew (at least) survived to adulthood, and it was maybe a descendant of him who made the submission?
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ppps - even later on; seems John Willison (30 in 1841) continued to work the farm, Parisholm.
He's there in 1851, but now with wife Isabella Campbell & children, and still there 1881.
1851 cens 641 (667) Ed3 p1 (Douglas)
Parish Holm.
John WILLISON, head, marr, 44, farmer of 400 acres & 4600 mountain land, emp 9 labourers, b Douglas, LKS
Isabella C. WILLISON, wife, marr, 34, farmer's wife, b Stranraer, WIG
John WILLISON, son, 6, farmer's son, scholar at home, b Douglas, LKS
Agnes WILLISON, daur, 5, scholar at home, b Douglas, LKS
Duncan C. WILLISON, son, 3, scholar at home, b Douglas, LKS
Alexander WILLISON, son, 1, --------- b Douglas, LKS
George WILLISON, son, 1, ------------ b Douglas, LKS
George HETHERINGTON, teacher, u/m 18, private tutor, b Lochmaben, DFS
Ann STEELE, servant, u/m 21, dairy maid, b Strathaven, LKS
Margaret WATSON, servant, u/m 18, house servant, b Douglas, LKS
Margaret BONINGTON, servant, 13, nurse maid, b Douglas, LKS
James JOHNSTON, servant, 13, cow herd, b Muirkirk, AYR
John HAMILTON, servant, u/m 18, shepherd & labourer, b Lesmahagow, LKS
Charles LINDSAY, servant, u/m 28, labourer, b Carmichael, LKS
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1881 Census Place: Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: Parish Holm
Source: FHL Film 0203628 GRO Ref Volume 641 EnumDist 1 Page 10
John WILLISON M 74 M Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farmer Of 1827 Acres 11 Of Which Are Arable
Isabella C. WILLISON M 64 F Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Farmers Wife
George WILLISON U 31 M Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Farmers Son
David ANDERSON 11 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Grandson Occ: Scholar
Agnes W. ANDERSON 3 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Grand Daur
Jessie WILSON U 18 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Housemaid
Mary GOLD U 19 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Kitchenmaid
James WEIR U 16 M Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Stable Boy
James PENNYCOOK U 15 M Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Cattle Boy
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Sorry for all these questions, but i'm having trouble tracing Jean (shd be Mary?) and family in Lanarkshire 1851.
Which son got married in, was it 1852? his wife's name? where?
Do you have any marriage details etc for the other children?
This census gives 3 BUCHAN children with the right names & ages....
Presuming you did mean to say Mary 35 (and not Jean) in 1841?
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1841/641 Place: Douglas-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 4 Folio: 4 Page: 2.
Civil Parish: Douglas Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Douglas
Address: Parisholm
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
WILLISON John M 30 Farmer Lanarkshire
WILLISON Jean F 60 Lanarkshire
WILLISON Mary F 35 Lanarkshire
WILLISON Marion F 25 Lanarkshire
WILLISON Elizabeth F 20 Lanarkshire
WILLISON James M 15 Lanarkshire
BUCHAN William M 10 Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHAN Jean F 5 Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHAN Matthew M 2 Outside Census County (1841)
BRAIDWOOD Janet F 25 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
MCLELLAND Janet F 15 Female Servant Lanarkshire
HENDERSON Mary F 35 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
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Jack
ps, later; the William Buchan born Crieff i'd hoped might be yours was actually a Free Church minister in Hamilton, Lanarkshire.
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pps, later on; i think you did mean Mary, but still can't see the BUCHAN children in 1851 (or 1861) Lanarkshire.
I dare say you'll know of this marriage etc.
WILLIAM BUCHAN
MARY WILLISON
Marriage: 28 JUN 1828 Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
JOHN BUCHAN; Birth: 10 JUL 1829 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
WILLIAM WILLISON BUCHAN; Birth: 20 JUN 1833 St Cuthberts Blotter, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
JEAN BUCHAN; b ~1836 outside Lanarkshire; Edinburgh?
MATTHEW BUCHAN; Christening: 21 APR 1839 Bristo Associate Congregation, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
[there is also an LDS submission for a William Mathew Buchan for the same day]
I'd presume Matthew (at least) survived to adulthood, and it was maybe a descendant of him who made the submission?
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ppps - even later on; seems John Willison (30 in 1841) continued to work the farm, Parisholm.
He's there in 1851, but now with wife Isabella Campbell & children, and still there 1881.
1851 cens 641 (667) Ed3 p1 (Douglas)
Parish Holm.
John WILLISON, head, marr, 44, farmer of 400 acres & 4600 mountain land, emp 9 labourers, b Douglas, LKS
Isabella C. WILLISON, wife, marr, 34, farmer's wife, b Stranraer, WIG
John WILLISON, son, 6, farmer's son, scholar at home, b Douglas, LKS
Agnes WILLISON, daur, 5, scholar at home, b Douglas, LKS
Duncan C. WILLISON, son, 3, scholar at home, b Douglas, LKS
Alexander WILLISON, son, 1, --------- b Douglas, LKS
George WILLISON, son, 1, ------------ b Douglas, LKS
George HETHERINGTON, teacher, u/m 18, private tutor, b Lochmaben, DFS
Ann STEELE, servant, u/m 21, dairy maid, b Strathaven, LKS
Margaret WATSON, servant, u/m 18, house servant, b Douglas, LKS
Margaret BONINGTON, servant, 13, nurse maid, b Douglas, LKS
James JOHNSTON, servant, 13, cow herd, b Muirkirk, AYR
John HAMILTON, servant, u/m 18, shepherd & labourer, b Lesmahagow, LKS
Charles LINDSAY, servant, u/m 28, labourer, b Carmichael, LKS
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1881 Census Place: Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: Parish Holm
Source: FHL Film 0203628 GRO Ref Volume 641 EnumDist 1 Page 10
John WILLISON M 74 M Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Farmer Of 1827 Acres 11 Of Which Are Arable
Isabella C. WILLISON M 64 F Stranraer, Wigtown, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Farmers Wife
George WILLISON U 31 M Douglas, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Farmers Son
David ANDERSON 11 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Grandson Occ: Scholar
Agnes W. ANDERSON 3 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Grand Daur
Jessie WILSON U 18 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Housemaid
Mary GOLD U 19 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Kitchenmaid
James WEIR U 16 M Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Stable Boy
James PENNYCOOK U 15 M Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Cattle Boy
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