James yuill farmer in 1851 newlands east kilbride .....

[CatrionaL]

Hello Maggie

I wonder if it might be worthwhile looking for Robert and family in Old or New Monklands on the 1861 Census. On the Broomknoll Parish Church, Airdrie (New Monklands) Cemetery Inscriptions, there is a Robert Love died 13th June 1862 aged 56. My own Lanarkshire family tended to move around amongst the mining villages or towns of the area.

One of my Livingstons married a Margaret LOVE who had an Isabella, Jean/Jane and William amongst her siblings, but a generation later than yours. Will keep note of yours, just in case a link shows up.

Happy searching
Catriona

[maggie]

Hello Catriona
thanks for your message yes please keep the info in mind i will do the same and will follow your suggestion about where to have a look for my love family tomorrow night i have no credits left on SP and was just on my way to bed when i checked the site (helps me to sleep more peacefully ) and if i get caught up with sitting here on the system that would be fatal as i have a very early rise for work in the morning but just wanted to acknowledge your message .thanks once again kind regards maggie

[Jack]

Hi Maggie,
Earlier census details now added.
You mention a possible gr-son James? 11 in 1861 (it's actually gr-daur Jane 11).
When you're not too sure if a name is male or female look at the age columns - boys to the Left, and girls are always Right
Jack
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ps, Gr-daur Jane LOVE 11 in 1861 may be the daur of John LOVE (b1826 Kilsyth) & Jane/Jean RIDDELL (b~1825 Airdrie).

[maggie]

Hello Jack
thankyou for adding the census details using the details
for these Love's i have found a marriage in 1858 for Isabella age 10 in 1851 to a David Jameson .thankyou once again kind regards maggie

[Jack]

Hi Maggie,

That was an interesting Airdrie MI that Catriona found for Robert LOVE 56yrs, d 13 Jun 1862.
Also mentioned is a Jean MILLAR 43yrs, d 28 Nov 1841.
Other 2 names on it are John LOVE 39yrs, d 5 Oct 1865, and Jean RIDDLE 67yrs, d 18 Jun 1891.

It looks like the above John was maybe a son? - might be worth looking at this Robert's 1862 DC to see if Jean MILLAR was his wife?
And also John LOVE's 1865 DC to see if his mother was or wasn't Isabella YUILL.

There is only one Robert LOVE age 45-65 in all Lanarkshire 1861 - with Isabella at Mount Pleasant Cottage.

If Jean MILLAR was Robert's wife, and also John's mother, then i've been wrong with the parents of Gr-daur Jane 11yrs in 1861.
John LOVE & Jane/Jean RIDDELL/RIDDLE had children -

Robert b~1845 Bothwell
John b~1847 Bothwell
Jeanie b1849 New Monkland (ie Airdrie area)
Isabella b1852 New Monkland
plus James 1854, Margaret 1856, Mary 1858, Janet 1861 (all b New Monkland).

The 1851 Old Monkland census has this John LOVE 25, b Kilsyth, STI.
And in 1861 at New Monkland aged 34 as b Banton, STI (this is just east of Kilsyth).

Jack

[maggie]

hello Jack
thanks for your message
i have had a look at his death cert it's as follows

Robert Love iron miner widower of Elizabeth Yuill
13th june 1862 Calderbank
parents John Love iron miner dec & janet Love ms miller
john Love grandson present.

John Love 1865 oct 8th 39 High street Airdrie married to Jane Riddell age 39 Parents Robert Love coal miner Isabella Love ms Yuill
John love son informant.( i can't quite decipher his occupation at the moment possibly manual com-----? i will take another look at that)

Jane Love 18th June 1891 widow of John Love a coillery contractor age 66 parents John Riddell handloom weaver dec& Jane Riddell ms Miller
John Bird? son in law douglas----- Coatbridge?
well Jack and Catriona (if your following this)Bird as a surname how could i resist not having a look for a marriage and here is the Love Bird marriage i wonder if it was a match made in heaven

1873 in the Burgh of Airdrie
19th Aug John Primrose Bird grocer age 21 parents John Bird and Janet Bird ms Primrose & Isabell Love 21 parents John Love miner contractor dec & Jane Love ms Riddell.
i need to sit now & get my head around all of this info and see where i go from here as i am getting myself a wee bit confused. so for now kind regards maggie
ps thanks Catriona

[Jack]

Hi Maggie,
I like it; a Love-Bird marriage! and here they are in 1881.
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1881 Census Place: Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: Spring Arden Cottage Merryston
Source: FHL Film 0203699 GRO Ref Volume 652-2 EnumDist 13 Page 27
John BIRD M 29 M Pollokshaws, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Provision Merchant
Isabella BIRD M 29 F Airdrie, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife
Jeanie BIRD 7 F Coatbridge, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
John BIRD 4 M Coatbridge, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son
Isabella BIRD 2 F Coatbridge, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
Grace BROWN 15 F Strathaven, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Domestic Servt
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So it would seem that the Jean MILLAR who died in 1841 is related to Robert LOVE through his mother.
Just glad she wasn't his wife!

Still chuckling at that marriage Jack

[maggie]

hello Jack
thanks for the census info i have found a marriage for the young Isabella age 2 in the 1881 her full name according to her marriage in 1899 was Isabella Love Bird i think she must take the prize for the nicest name on my tree by far .thanks once again Jack kind regards maggie

[anitawanita]

How interesting to find this thread 9 years later! In 2005 I happened to be researching my LOVE ancestors who emigrated to New Zealand.

Robert Love (b 1845 Bothwell) emigrated to Central Otago, NZ with his brother James Miller Love (b1854 Airdrie). Their parents were John Love & Jane Riddell. John's parents were Robert Love & Isabella Yuill

Robert is my GG Grandfather, he resided in Ophir (originally Blacks) and then Poolburn in Central Otago. His Brother James lived not far away, on a farm (Willows) near Alexandra. I believe they both tried their hands at mining in the area during the boom and were later farmers.

I am particularly interested in where my Scottish ancestors are buried? I've looked at all the burial records I can find and haven't spotted John/Jane or Robert/Isabella...

Cheers,
Anita

[StewL]

Hello Anita

Hopefully those who contributed to the thread will still have their old email address and get notification of your post