an elusive ggrandfather .....

[Rachel]

Jack could you help me further. I cannot find John Baillie (married Stevenson Young in 1843) on the 1841 0r 1851 census or even his birth. I do know that he died in 1857 aged 34. His death certificate shows his father as John Baillie,gamekeeper and his mother as a Dorothy MacKay. Have tried all sources that I know without any luck. He is probably under my nose but I just cannot recognise him. I do not have access to the 1841 census so when you have the time or chance could you have a look for me? info shows he was born in Glasgow.Would be very grateful.
rachel

[Jack]

Hi Rachel,
I too had trouble with a suitable John BAILLIE Glasgow 1851; and it's no wonder neither of us could find him.
He was in ENGLAND
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Glasgow Poor Relief record. D-HEW 10/5/14. p56. No 50116.

Stevenson Young BAILLIE.
Applied 1.45pm 1 Dec 1856
43 Castle St. 1st back left outside stair, 2 up & right door.
Born Duke St, Glasgow.
Married, age 31, housewife.
Partially disabled - children
John 11yrs at school, b Market St.
Mary 6yrs b 118 Abercromby St.
Charles 4mos b present house.
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Other information -
Husband John Baillie, 33, a wood turner, born in Camlachie, was sent to Royal Infirmary on a
subscribers ticket 14 days ago - he has been in ill health for nearly 3yrs.
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Remarks -
She has got some yarn today, to wynd but cannot say how much she will make at it. it being her first commencement.
£3 - 10/- for rent.
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Particulars of Settlement -
In present house, Glasgow, 2yrs 6mos
Prior - Graham Square, Glasgow, 5mos
Soho St, Glasgow, 3mos
Hunter Sr, Glasgow, 1yr
Main St, Gorbals, 3mos
(Husband in) England, 2yrs
118 Abercromby St, Glasgow, 2yrs
111 King St, Glasgow, 2mos
Brook St, Barony, 1yr
Market St, Glasgow, 3yrs 6mos
(Husband to marriage) Duke St, Glasgow, 1yr
Gallowgate, Glasgow, 1yr

See other report.
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"See other report" refers to John Baillie's 1857 application (D-HEW 10/5/14. p240. No 51222) - 1 page, which doesn't give a great deal more than above.
There is also another PL record for Stevenson in 1890 (D-HEW 10/6/65. p91. No D21796). This one has 3 pages.
So contact Archives at The Mitchell if you'd like photocopies - they'll advise you on cost.
--> Mitchell Library - Archives and Special Collections <--
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Jack

[Rachel]

Thanks again Jack for all that info. I have traced a number of my ancestors to England but had no record of any Baillies being down South. Must take a wee while to digest all the information you have given which may explain a few missing links.
kind regards from rachel

[KerryW44]

Hi Rachel,
I am new to this forum.I am also looking for John Baillie who was married to Dorothy / Doherty McKay.They are listed on my ggggrandfathers death certificate. Hugh Bailie was born in Hamilton, Lanarkshire in about 1818.He came to Australia in 1837 as a convict. Any help on John Bailie and Dorothy McKays other siblings would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Kerry

[Rachel]

hang in there Kerry. I am trying to dig up more information about my gggrandfather John Baillie. Have already obtained info about his wife stevenson young/baillie about her application for poor relief in 1890's in which it showed her husband's father name as Hugh Baillie wife Dorothy McKay which is different from his death certificate, when she said his name was also John Baillie. I am waiting for the copy of John Baillie's application for poor relief in 1857,the year of his death. I am hoping that this will confirm the name of his parents. Will get back to you when I have more info.
rachel