Janet McMaster, Stoneykirk.....

Lorna B. · Post by **Lorna B.** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:01 am

Janet McMaster b. circa 1814 in Stoneykirk had a son, James-fathered by John Bone, in 1842. I have not yet found a marriage certificate for them. She subsequently married James Kelly and a son James Kelly jnr became part of their family. The birth dates co-incide and everything would suggest that James Kelly was the son of John Bone. What is the best way to proceed with research. Is it best to just follow the mother's blood line and ignore the dad's until, if ever, I can prove this link?

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:44 am

Hello Janet
There is an extract for the birth of James on http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... search.asp

James was born on 2/1/1843, his parents are John Bone and Janet McMaster.

If you can have a look at the film in your local family history centre it should tell you if James was born in wedlock or not.
Do you have Janet's death certificate?, it may tell you if she was married to John Bone then James Kelly.
Even if they did not marry, John Bone is the father so you may feel that it is worth following his line also.

Jim

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Post by **AndrewP** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:44 am

Hi Lorna,

If you have not already done so, you should seek marriage and death certificates for James Kelly. The questions being, do either of these show "James Kelly, previously Bone"; and who is named as his father on these documents?

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:49 am

Hi Lorna
Is this the same people?

JAMES BONE
Christening: 02 JAN 1843 Stoneykirk, Wigtown, Scotland
Parents:
Father: JOHN BONE
Mother: JANET MCMASTER

It looks like Janet and James Kelly had some children:

1. JOHN KELLY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 MAY 1860 Leswalt, Wigtown, Scotland

2. MARY KELLY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 DEC 1853 Kirkcolm, Wigtown, Scotland

What about trying to follow James Bone/Kelly forwards through the census years and also looking out for a possible marriage and then death? There may be clues along the way - inconsistencies in the surname given etc. Was it the 51 census you have seen?

I have seen children take on the name of the man of the house if their mother has remarried but the proof that the one you have seen with the household was the son of James Bone perhaps lies in the place of birth in census returns - does it match with what is given above on the IGI. Does SP have the same? Are you able to check the original OPR entry?
Sorry, lots of questions...

Best wishes
Lesley

JimM · Post by **JimM** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:03 am

Hi Lesley
Poor girl asks one simple question and gets loads back in return

I fell into the trap when i said James was "born" 2/1/1843... I should have said "christened"

Jim

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:16 am

Hi Jim
I was busy typing away, trying my best to reply to a question which had no answers yet ....and when I finished, then posted it I found the replies were nearly onto page 2!!!!!

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:34 am

Hi all
Quick search on SP for a death of a James Bone born 1842 +/- 2yrs reveals 5 deaths from 1855 onwards - so these would be worth checking out as there are not many to deal with. Didn't look at the results so I don't know the locations, sorry.

Trying James Bone with Kelly as "other surname" = 0 results

(There are 51 James Kelly deaths born 1842 +/- 2yrs from 1855 onwards!)

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **AndrewP** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:53 am

Hi Lorna,

Only one of these deaths of a James Bone is in Wigtownshire - 1859 - age not indexed (not indexed, given an artificial age of 131 for indexing purposes only). May be worth a try (no promises), but I have no spare credits to check it with.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:01 pm

Here they are in 1851 from www.dumgal.gov.uk

Name: BONE , James
Address: Gallahill(891)
Parish: Leswalt
Relationship: relative in househol
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Age: 9
Born: Stoneykirk Wgt
Household No: 10/12

Name: KELLY , Infant
Address: Gallahill(891)
Parish: Leswalt
Relationship: son of James Kelly
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Age: 1 month
Born: Leswalt Wgt
Household No: 10/12

Name: KELLY , James
Address: Gallahill(891)
Parish: Leswalt
Relationship: head of household
Marital Status: married
Occupation: LABOURER agricultural
Age: 20
Born: Stoneykirk Wgt
Household No: 10/12

Name: KELLY , Jennet
Address: Gallahill(891)
Parish: Leswalt
Relationship: wife of James Kelly
Marital Status: married
Occupation:
Age: 36
Born: Stoneykirk Wgt
Household No: 10/12

Name: KELLY , Margret
Address: Gallahill(891)
Parish: Leswalt
Relationship: daughter of James Ke
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Age: 3
Born: Stoneykirk Wgt
Household No: 10/12

Name: KELLY , William
Address: Gallahill(891)
Parish: Leswalt
Relationship: son of James Kelly
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Age: 2
Born: Stoneykirk Wgt
Household No: 10/12

Annette M

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Lorna B. · Post by **Lorna B.** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:23 pm

WOW,

Thank you everyone for your replies. I have looked at James Bone's birth certificate. I have not found any reference to him being illegitimate. Neither Janet's marriage certificate or death certificate give any indication that she might have been married previously. I have not found any references for deaths of James Bone, son of John Bone and Janet McMaster but I do not have access to OPRs. Being new to the site and not very sure of how to use it yet I hope that this gets through to the right area.
Lorna B

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