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ali
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1891/1901 Paterson.. Paisley Renfrew or wherever? .....

Post by ali » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:16 am

Hi,

Can anyone find these people in the 1891/1901 census

Census Paisley High Church Renfrew
Dwelling: 36 Canal Street

Agnes PATERSON Daughter Unmarried 2 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
James PATERSON 4 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Mary PATERSON Wife Married 24 Shotts, Lanark,
Robert PATERSON Head Married 24 Ironstone Miner Shotts, Lanark,

Thank you
Ali :wink:

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Post by WilmaM » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:47 am

Hello Ali,

The ages that you've stated in your post - what year do they apply to?
Wilma

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PATERSON .. 1891/1901 Paisley Renfrew or anywhere

Post by ali » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:21 am

Hi Wilma,

Whoops sorry :oops: it was 1881 census.

Ali

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Post by WilmaM » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:03 pm

Have you not managed to find them on Scotland's People ?

I had a quick search and there are candidates for each of them in Renfrewshire Paisley in both years [ except for Agnes aged 12 + 1 in 1891]

I didn't look to see if they were all together, but you can do that by cross referencing the GROS numbers, that way you can sometimes save credits.

I hope you find them.
Wilma

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Re: 1891/1901 Paterson.. Paisley Renfrew or wherever?

Post by DavidWW » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:31 pm

ali wrote:Hi,

Can anyone find these people in the 1891/1901 census

Census Paisley High Church Renfrew
Dwelling: 36 Canal Street

Agnes PATERSON Daughter Unmarried 2 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
James PATERSON 4 Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Mary PATERSON Wife Married 24 Shotts, Lanark,
Robert PATERSON Head Married 24 Ironstone Miner Shotts, Lanark,

Thank you
Ali :wink:
Hi Ali

You face a number of problems here !!

Firstly, the very frequently occurring surname PAT[T]ERSON and a few more less common spelling variants.

Secondly, one or more of the 1881 kids, or the mother or father may have passed away by 1891/1901.

Thirdly, miners, be they coal, ironstone or shale were very mobile across the whole of Central Scotland.

While you could search on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk in the 1891/1901 census records on the basis of matches for the known family members based on their ages in 1881, looking for matches in the same registration district, searches on the basis of +/- 1 or +/- 2 on the basis of the 1881 ages would produce many matches so that, even at 1 credit/page of 25 matches, it could cost quite a few credits, never mind the time required for the exercise.

This strikes me as a good demonstration of the advantage of visiting NRH in Edinburgh, and, for the £17/day, being able to view as many records as you like, - easily 100/hour, - or of using the services of a professional researcher to do that on your behalf .................

Were I taking this research forward, I first look for the maiden name of Mary,... KING?, - then her death record based on the cross-check surname possibility, - I can't see such a match which could mean emigration some time after 1881 ......

David

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PATERSON .. 1891/1901 Paisley Renfrew or anywhere

Post by ali » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:10 am

Hi David,
Thank you for your reply I didn't think this would be easy. But its always worth a try knowing how good you are at TS. =D> I have tried SP with Cross checking etc and also Mary's death and yes Maiden surname was King. Have you got that crystal ball out.... :?: But as you said no match.

And yes migration could be on the cards. The story goes that my grandfathers parents came to Australia. But I couldn't find his parents only that he was illigitimate to Mary Kings younger sister Margaret. So not sure if that was the whole truth on th oz bit.

So Yes 17 pounds a day sounds good at the NRH except fot the $2000.00 it would cost me to get there. :-({|= Suppose it would be cheaper to hire someone but then again more enjoyable if I could take a trip. So will sus my hubby out on holidays for this year.

Thanks again.

Ali.

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Re: PATERSON .. 1891/1901 Paisley Renfrew or anywhere

Post by DavidWW » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:14 pm

ali wrote:Hi David,
Thank you for your reply I didn't think this would be easy. But its always worth a try knowing how good you are at TS. =D> I have tried SP with Cross checking etc and also Mary's death and yes Maiden surname was King. Have you got that crystal ball out.... :?: But as you said no match.

And yes migration could be on the cards. The story goes that my grandfathers parents came to Australia. But I couldn't find his parents only that he was illigitimate to Mary Kings younger sister Margaret. So not sure if that was the whole truth on th oz bit.

So Yes 17 pounds a day sounds good at the NRH except fot the $2000.00 it would cost me to get there. :-({|= Suppose it would be cheaper to hire someone but then again more enjoyable if I could take a trip. So will sus my hubby out on holidays for this year.

Thanks again.

Ali.
Hi Ali

Good luck with the conversation with hubby !! :!: :wink:

David