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Julie Tyrell
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Help needed deciphering names!! .....

Post by Julie Tyrell » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:56 pm

I have been searching high and low for John Donaldson, I knew his parents were supposed to be John and Elizabeth Donaldson (formerly Wright) but with no trace of a marriage for them or a birth for John (juinor) I was at a lose until he turned up on this census

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John Donaldson (wifes son) age 12 - coal miner - Hamilton, Lanarks

But I cant read the name of the 2 children below him. I presume his mother married their father and then married again to James Nicol and had a son (James Nicol) by him.

Any help would be great
Names researching:
KIRKLAND, MALCOLM, DONALDSON, WRIGHT, LENNOX, FERGUSON, - Scotland
FUALL - Cornwall and Scotland
HAMMON, - Kent
FIFIELD, LEWIS, HOWSE - England

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Post by Tracey » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:09 pm

Hello Julie

Welcome to Talkingscot

Im sorry but all i can work out is Agnes McG............ ?

There are some eagle eyes on here and it wont take them long to decipher it

Tracey

Do you have a death for Elizabeth naming a previous spouse or who signed the certificate for any clues ?
Last edited by Tracey on Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:13 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Re Help needed deciphering names!!

Post by Jack » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:11 pm

Hi Julie, i'd guess -
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Rosann McGUINNES [or similar]
Agnes do
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Jack

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Post by LesleyB » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:34 pm

Hi Julie
I'd agree with Jack on the names of the two children - Agnes and Rosann who like John, seem to be the wife's children so it looks as if the wife had three partners up to the date of this census: a Donaldson, a McGuiness (or similar) and then James Nicol.

Best wishes
Lesley
Researching:
Midlothian & Fife - Goalen, Lawrie, Ewart, Nimmo, Jamieson, Dick, Ballingall.
Dunbartonshire- Mcnicol, Davy, Guy, McCunn, McKenzie.
Ayrshire- Lyon, Parker, Mitchell, Fraser.
Easter Ross- McCulloch, Smith, Ross, Duff, Rose.

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Post by Tracey » Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:49 pm

I presume his mother married their father and then married again to James Nicol and had a son (James Nicol) by him
No, my gtx2 grandmother had four children found so far. She NEVER married but three of her children carried (or used) their fathers sir names. Only two of the birth certificates had RCE,s.

Tracey
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Re: Help needed deciphering names!!

Post by nelmit » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:09 am

Julie Tyrell wrote:I have been searching high and low for John Donaldson, I knew his parents were supposed to be John and Elizabeth Donaldson (formerly Wright) but with no trace of a marriage for them or a birth for John (juinor) I was at a lose until he turned up on this census

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... p?pos=-437

John Donaldson (wifes son) age 12 - coal miner - Hamilton, Lanarks

But I cant read the name of the 2 children below him. I presume his mother married their father and then married again to James Nicol and had a son (James Nicol) by him.

Any help would be great
This looks like her daughters' father.

ELIZABETH WRIGHT


Marriages:
Spouse: PETER MCGINES Family
Marriage: 23 JUN 1850 Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland


and then to James Nicol

ELIZABETH WRIGHT


Marriages:
Spouse: JAMES NICHOL Family
Marriage: 01 JUN 1860 Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland


Regards,
Annette M

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Post by DavidWW » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:51 am

Around Glasgow McGUINNESS and variants are very likely to be a recent import from Ireland, which I needed to set the scene in terms of explaining that Roseann is often, in such circumstances, an anglification of the Irish Rosein.

David

Julie Tyrell
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Post by Julie Tyrell » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:48 pm

Thank you for all your help, it is really appreciated and hopefully knocks down a few more bricks!!
Names researching:
KIRKLAND, MALCOLM, DONALDSON, WRIGHT, LENNOX, FERGUSON, - Scotland
FUALL - Cornwall and Scotland
HAMMON, - Kent
FIFIELD, LEWIS, HOWSE - England