Noble and Logan Family .....

dmd1164 · Post by **dmd1164** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:28 pm

Having trouble finding any records of Alexander Noble and Marion Noble (nee Logan) on the Freecen census records. Their daughter Margaret Noble married Alexander Thomson on 19/03/1889. So surely there should be something somewhere???

Also - on the marriage record for this couple - Margaret's mother is deceased yet the witness' name is also down as Marion Logan - could this be the grandmother of Margaret Noble?

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards
Donna

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:42 pm

Hi Donna
In what area of Scotland were you hoping to find them in the census?
later edit:
Is this them on IGI?
ALEXANDER NOBLE
Marriages:
Spouse: MARION LOGAN
Marriage: 28 DEC 1855 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

The Marion Logan who was the witness at he marriage coudl also maybe be a cousin?

Best wishes
Lesley

dmd1164 · Post by **dmd1164** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:46 pm

Hi Lesley

Margaret and Alexander were married in North Leith, Alexander Thomson was listed as living at 12 Glover Street Leith, there isn't an address listed against Margaret Noble on the Marriage registration. So somewhere in that vicinity I would guess. If that's any help.

Donna

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:54 pm

Are these the children you are hoping to find in a census?
Father: Alexander Noble, Mother: Marion Logan
1. MARGARET WHITE CRICHTON NOBLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 19 JUL 1870 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

2. WILLIAM NOBLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 12 JUN 1868 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

3. JOHN LOGAN NOBLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 SEP 1863 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

4. ALEXANDER NOBLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 NOV 1861 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

5. MARION WHITE NOBLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 05 SEP 1857 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

6. ROBERT LOGAN NOBLE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 DEC 1865 Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

Best wishes
Lesley

dmd1164 · Post by **dmd1164** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:10 pm

Lesley you are wonderful that's exactly what I was after.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:21 pm

Hi Donna
I'm not doing too well on this one.. this family of Thomsons are at 13 Glover Street in 1881, which seems a bit of a coincidence, but the Alexander here seems a bit young..?

Dwelling: 13 Glover Street
Census Place: South Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0224019 GRO Ref Volume 692-2 EnumDist 8 Page 38

John THOMSON M 56 M Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: General Labourer
Helen THOMSON M 49 F Logie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Wife
William THOMSON 15 M Fordoun, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Royal Navy
John THOMSON 12 M North Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Ropery Works
Alexander THOMSON 11 M South Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:25 pm

Could this be your Nobles? Did Marion die and Alexander remarry before 1881? If so, she died after 19 July 1870 when dau. Margaret was born.

Were Margaret and Alexander Thomson in their teens when they married as this Margaret also seems youngish to me...? But the children John, William & Margaret would seem to be about the right ages and order here.

Dwelling: 11 Assembly St
Census Place: South Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0224020 GRO Ref Volume 692-2 EnumDist 53 Page 3

Alexander NOBLE M 49 M Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Rope Spinner
Elizabeth NOBLE M 44 F Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland
Rel: Wife
John NOBLE U 18 M Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Weaver (Wire)
William NOBLE 12 M Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Margaret NOBLE 10 F Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth WALLACE U 20 M Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Step Daur
Occ: Unemp
James WALLACE U 18 M Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Step Son
Occ: Warehouseman (Soap Wrks)
Isabella WALLACE U 16 F Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Step Daur
Occ: Dressmaker
Alexander WALLACE 7 M Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel: Step Son
Occ: Scholar

dmd1164 · Post by **dmd1164** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:35 pm

Hi Lesley

Gee you're quick.

From what I have Margaret Noble married at 19 on 18-03-1899 so she would have been born around 1870.

Alexander Noble her father was listed as a Rope Spinner on the marriage registration. Marian Noble (nee Logan) was listed as deceased. So yes she would have passed away prior to Margaret's marriage.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:42 pm

Bingo!

dmd1164 · Post by **dmd1164** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:49 pm

So looks like Alexander married again after Marion passed away. The children must have been young. AND it's interesting that Wallace has turned up in the names.

My son William is William John Wallace McGill. William after my grandfather, John after my partner's dad and Wallace - well Stephen says after William Wallace...... just interesting.

Many thanks for you help Lesley.

What site address are you using for the IGI records?

Donna