How Do I find the family who left Scotland 1836 to 1838??...

Canadian girl · Post by **Canadian girl** » Sun May 07, 2006 3:03 am

Hi
I am hoping someone out there has some info or some thoughts on this matter.

I am trying to locate a family that left Scotland about 1836-1838 for Canada. Here is all the information I have

Andrew Young b: March or April 1780 Scotland
married
Mary ? (unknow maiden name) b: 1805ish Scotland

Children:
Hugh Young b: 1827 Scotland
John Young b: 1831 or 1836 Scotland
Agnes Young b: 1832 Scotland
Margaret Young b: 1834

Now the next bit of information I have is the first child born in Canada. Named Andrew James Young born New Brunswick Feb. 1838. The family then moved in Ontario. I have information on them in Binbrook Ontario.

I have been trying to find the family link back to Scotland for almost 12 years off and on

and found nothing about my family. I have found one family Andrew Young and Mary Jackson they have children the same names but the dates do not match up. The birth years information I have from census, death cert or marriages I believe to be true.

Any help or idea or searchs for me would be GREAT! if you think of any ideas then please feel free to reply or send an email.

thanks
Canadian Girl

Post by **Tracey** » Sun May 07, 2006 7:55 am

Hello Canadian Girl

Welcome to talkingscot

Is there a possibility of more children to this couple ? There are two other combinations on Scotlandspeople and the IGI - Andrew Young and Mary Maxwell or Andrew Young and Mary Wilson.

The birth years information I have from census, death cert or marriages I believe to be true

Personally with this as a guide line for ages i would be a little bit creative adding or subtracting a few years either way unless i had firm proof as some of mine chopped or even added up to 10 years to their ages on census.

I dont know if you have considered the couples mentioned but searching on SP for births to parents Andrew Young - Mary ? between years 1826 - 1832 only bought back these along with your find of Mary Jackson.

The sharp minds will be up and about soon to reply to your questions

Tracey

Canadian girl · Post by **Canadian girl** » Sun May 07, 2006 2:14 pm

Hi
thanks for your reply. I did find that name as well along with another name that I thought might be the mother. Mary Montgomery but it is hard to find the contection. The dates I have from all those records have never been different in all the census as well as marriage cert. the ages of the children are always the same year when you figure it out. So unless they have told the lie on each and every one that I guess that is possible.

So how do I go about finding all the children that Mary Maxwell or Mary Montgomery had?

thanks
CG

Canadian girl · Post by **Canadian girl** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:09 pm

Hi

I see a lot of different people have clicked on to give a read but are there any other ideas? any thoughts? any more help......

thanks
CG

Post by **joette** » Tue May 23, 2006 5:30 pm

Do you have any idea what areas of Scotland you are dealing with?
I have an Andrew Young in my line.They are from East Lothian although living Newbattle Midlothian c 1841.They had at least nine children & one of his youngest Andrew became my paternal GGGreat-Grandfather.
Young is a bit like Smith -lots of them about.
I do have some Young data but not earlier than 1841 so i guess not much help to you.

Canadian girl · Post by **Canadian girl** » Tue May 23, 2006 7:31 pm

Hi
thanks for the post. The informaiton I have is in my first post...but that is pretty much it....nothing more. I wish I did.

I am hoping that there is a family out there of Young not only missing my gggg grandfather Andrew Young but also a William and a Thomas. I have to believe that those two men fit into the family some where they would just being in the same circle in the cemetery with my other family members if they were not some how related. The only thing is no real dates for them either. And no chance of finding a place of birth.

CG

Post by **Liz Turner** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:34 pm

Dear CG

Not sure if I can really be of any help, but looking at the date of birth you've given for Andrew (1780) and the Mary (surname unknown) of around 1805 - it could be that she was his second wife??? Listed below are the only marriages of Andrew Young to a Mary that I could find on the IGI using a date of 1831+/- 5 years. If Mary was indeed born around 1805 then this would cover her from age 21 to 31.

ANDREW YOUNG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 16 JUN 1827 Loudoun, Ayr, Scotland

ANDREW YOUNG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 02 DEC 1831 Perth, Perth, Scotland

ANDREW YOUNG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 20 MAY 1835 Old Cumnock, Ayr, Scotland

ANDREW YOUNG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 21 MAY 1835 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland

ANDREW YOUNG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 21 OCT 1836 Barony, Lanark, Scotland

If you don't know the area that they came from, it will be really hard to track them down. Without a hint of an area, I think you've got a really tough job here. You can repeat this search on the IGI and maybe even widen your date range.

I hope this makes sense and doesn't take you off on a wild goose chase....

Liz

Canadian girl · Post by **Canadian girl** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:42 pm

Hi Liz
thanks for the info. I thought that Mary would be his second wife too but the children Hugh, John and Agnes all list Mary as mother on their census and marriage information.

I have thought that perhaps the names of William and Thomas are two chidren from Andrews first marriage and all the children Hugh, john, Agnes and margaret are with second wife Mary. But again no name for first wife and no informaiton just a thought...

The death information of Agnes Young here in Ontario is still not found. I know where they were married and who she married and then moved to Blenheim Ontario and died within about 10 years but no information or cemetery found with her in it. She is my last hope of finding the birth place for her.
CG

Post by **Liz Turner** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:50 pm

That was quick! Do you think it's worth your while checking these out on the IGI it might help? You could do searches for children and see if any of the names match up.

Do you know when Andrew Young died? Since he could have been about 25 years older that Mary ?? it's likely he died a good while before her. If it was in Canada, could there have been a Will somewhere? I'm afraid I don't know enough about Canadian records to help you there, but someone else on this site may well know. They're usually exceptionally helpful.....

Are there passenger lists you could consult? I'm sure I've seen information on TS about that. Might be worth doing a search of this site. If you manage to find a starting location somewhere, it will make things much easier.

Good luck - Liz

Try this for starters:-

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

got the url from another post on TS.

Canadian girl · Post by **Canadian girl** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:55 pm

Hi
oh I have a lot on Andrew Young death ....

he was born March or April 1780 Scotland and died Sept. 18 1851 in Binbrook Ontario. I have land property he bought with the two in Thomas and William as well as his sons Hugh and Andrew (first born here in Canada). I have a lot of information from him right to myself which is about gggg grandfather.... I am just hitting over and over a brick wall.

There is a Mary Jackson that married an Andrew Young and had children all the same name and some other sites that I have visisted have tried to tell me this is the same but I just beleive it since the family has their first child born in New Brunswick on Feb. 8 1839 and their are chldren still being born in Scotland with this Andrew Young and Mary Jackson.

I am trying to find a link between Thomas born 1820/1821 he is buried right between Andrew Young, Mary and John in the cemtery. No mention of son of or brother of just his date of death and age of 33 years.
CG