1891 Problem ?? .....

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DavidWW
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1891 Problem ?? .....

Post by DavidWW » Sun May 07, 2006 1:26 pm

This only applies to RDs where there are more than 99 enumeration districts, - which means only a few RDs in Glasgow, Edinburgh, and maybe Dundee, - I haven't checked the latter. Aberdeen I'm unsure about .........

Instead of ED 100 ~ 109 you will find Ref. 0A0 ~ 0A9
Likewise ED 110 ~ 119 becomes 0B0 ~ 0B9
and ED 120 ~ 129 - Ref: 0C0 ~ 0C9

This is most probably due to a glitch whereby the first two digits of the base 10 numbers are being converted to base 16, hexadecimal, numbers, - in that system A = 10, B = 11, C = 12, D = 13, E = 14, and F 15 ....... The field requires three characters, so, just to complicate matters, a leading 0 is stuck in.

In all the case that I've seen so far, there is no linked image.

The problem has been reported to ScotlandPeople, and hopefully there's a quick and simple fix.

There does not appear to be the same problem in 1901. I haven't looked at 1871 or earlier, - I'm not even sure if there are RDs with more than 99 EDs in these earlier censuses.

David

PS For any interestered in the details, searching for John SMITHs in Glasgow City in 1891 produces over 800 hits, including ........

1891 SMITH JOHN M 75 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A8/11 024 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 72 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C4/03 030 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 70 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0A0/03 008

1891 SMITH JOHN M 65 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C4/03 030

1891 SMITH JOHN M 54 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0B7/11 017 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 33 GORBALS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/12 0A0/12 008 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 36 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A0/11 019 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 25 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0A1/03 019 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 26 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A8/11 011 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 26 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C1/03 008 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 27 GORBALS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/12 0A0/12 008 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 28 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0A0/03 004 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 22 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C0/03 023 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 8 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0B4/03 001 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 9 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0B7/03 007 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 14 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C3/03 003 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 14 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C3/03 004 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 15 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0B5/11 021 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 0 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A8/11 015 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 2 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0B5/11 011 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 3 KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0B9/09 019 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 4 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A8/11 022 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 5 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0B3/03 021 No Im

1891 SMITH JOHN M 38 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A8/11 015 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 40 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C1/03 004 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 40 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0B4/03 001 No Ima

1891 SMITH JOHN M 52 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0C0/03 015 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 53 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A4/11 009 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 54 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0A8/11 011 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN B M 19 HUTCHESONTOWN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/11 0B0/11 005 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN C M 47 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0A1/03 005 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN MCM F M 5 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0A0/03 020 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN N M 25 KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0B9/09 007 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN P M 13 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0B1/03 007 No Im


A quick initial look at Edinburgh City 1891 gives ....................


1891 SMITH JOHN M 74 NEWINGTON EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/05 0B5/05 014 No Image

1891 SMITH JOHN M 75 ST ANDREW EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0A8/02 004 No Image

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Re: 1891 Problem ??

Post by Jack » Sun May 07, 2006 1:58 pm

Hi David,
Certainly Barony & Glasgow in 1841 have EDs going well into the 200s!
Jack

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Re: 1891 Problem ??

Post by DavidWW » Sun May 07, 2006 2:11 pm

Jack wrote:Hi David,
Certainly Barony & Glasgow in 1841 have EDs going well into the 200s!
Jack
Hi Jack

Didn't know that!

Can I assume that you've not yet seen any similar problems for 1841 ?....
wait a mo ............... searching on John SMITH in Glasgow City produces 318 hits... on just the first page there are ED numbers, - 227, 235, 232, 148, 124 and 130, all Barony 622, so that I think that it can safely be taken that there isn't a "1891" problem in 1841.

Similarly in Edinburgh with EDs 103 and 169 in "Edinburgh" RD - 685/01, and 215, 220, and 185 in St Cuthberts RD - 685/02.

So even more likely that this is a glitch that applies only to the 1891 data ..........

And unless someone comes up with contrary examples relating to '51, '61, and '71, I'm going to assume for the moment that these censuses also have no similar problems ............

David