Thomson family .....

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Sat May 27, 2006 5:19 pm

I am trying to find the Thomson family in the 51/61 census - husband George, wife Mary and son Hugh Thomson age aprox 4, living either Dennistoun or Bridgeton areas

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sat May 27, 2006 5:47 pm

Hi thomsos

Just a few questions to help narrow this up! Do you have them on a later census?? Where were they born?? What are the approx ages for George and Mary? When was Hugh 5 1851 or 1861??? Any idea of an occupation for George??

Thanks
Jean

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Sat May 27, 2006 6:02 pm

That's what the problem is, I can't seem to get definite information on them, I have George Thomson and Mary Gibson married 1823 (don't think this is right), Hugh does not seem to be born until 1847, George was a handloom weaver, and Hugh was married to an Agnes Palmer 1890, sorry if its a bit vague

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sat May 27, 2006 6:36 pm

Hi again thomsos

Thanks you gave me just enough clues to get a foot in the door!!

First off.....here is your Hugh on the 1881 census. Pretty sure it's him as he was a widower at his 1890 marriage and I was having an awful time trying to figure out what the heck his occupation was

....and then I found the same word on the 1881

Dwelling: 13 Mc Ewan St
Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203634 GRO Ref Volume 644-2 EnumDist 45 Page 3
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Hugh THOMSON M 34 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Guttapercher Boot Maker
Jeanie THOMSON M 32 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Mary THOMSON U 5 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
George THOMSON 3 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Robert DAVIDSON W 68 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Father In Law
Occ: Woolen Weaver

So with this if you're interested in tracking down his first wife's details you get the bonus of her dad living with them!

Ok...now it gets more seroius.....Haven't proven it but have a real good feeling that your family was in Barony in 1851. Sad thing is I think father George was already dead so no good for getting his parents names. Hugh has a houseful of siblings though and with a bit of luck you can trace the son-in-law informant to Mary's DC to a marriage to one of Hugh's sisters listed on the census. This would help cement the whole package nicely! The pretty convincing piece for me though is the fact that Mary died at Duke Street....and the family I found in 1851 is living on Duke Street.....

Go buy this one and see what you think.........

1851 THOMPSON HUGH M 5 BARONY GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 622/00 144/00 006

Best wishes
Jean

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Sat May 27, 2006 6:39 pm

Oh...almost forgot...you'll have to buy the page before too to get the whole household on the 1851 census....

Best wishes
Jean

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Sat May 27, 2006 7:25 pm

Great, I new I would find help here
Thanks Jean

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:22 pm

Hi Thomsos,
You should also be able to find the family in 1841 on SP. All children born LKS.
Looks like there could be an older daur Ellen, and seems Robert [7] in 1841 was as Andrew [18] in 1851.
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1841 cens 622 Ed 180 p 6 (Barony)
Miller Street.
George THOMSON, 45, cotton h.l.w., b Ireland
Mary 35, b Ireland
Ellen 15
William 14
John 12
George 10
Robert 7
Mary 4
James 2
--
Jack

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:30 pm

Thanks Jack,
I'll check it out, although I'm not sure about Ireland,
thomsos

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:27 am

Hi Thomsos,
Here are some 1841, 1851, and 1861 censuses to compare.
==
1841 cens 622 Ed 180 p 6 (Barony - East Wellpark)
Miller Street. [this was just off Duke St. in the Camlachie area]
George THOMSON, 45, cotton h.l.w., b Ireland
Mary THOMSON, 35, -------------------b Ireland
Ellen THOMSON, 15, ------------------b LKS
William THOMSON, 14,---------------b LKS
John THOMSON, 12,-----------------b LKS
George THOMSON, 10,-------------b LKS
Robert THOMSON, 7,---------------b LKS
Mary THOMSON, 4,-----------------b LKS
James THOMSON, 2,--------------b LKS
--
1851 cens 622 (590) Ed 4 pp 5-6 (Barony- Camlachie)
481 Duke Street.
Mary THOMSON, widow, 48, winder of cotton, b Ireland
William THOMSON, son, marr, 24, handloom weaver, cotton, b Glasgow, LKS
Mary THOMSON, daur-in-law, marr, 21, housekeeper, b Glasgow, LKS
George THOMSON, son, u/m 20, crate maker, b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew THOMSON, son, u/m 18, weaver's wright, b Glasgow, LKS
Mary THOMSON, daur, 14, winder of cotton, b Glasgow, LKS
Janet THOMSON, daur, 7 -------------------b Glasgow, LKS
Hugh THOMSON, son, 5, at home, b Glasgow, LKS
--
1861 cens 644-2 Ed 100 p 7 (High Church)
Mary THOMSON 57, b Ireland
George THOMSON 28, b Glasgow, LKS
Hugh THOMSON 15, b Glasgow, LKS
Mary THOMSON 24, b Glasgow, LKS
Mary McKEE 24, b Glasgow, LKS
James McKEE 3, b Glasgow, LKS
William McKEE, under 1, b Glasgow, LKS
==
The 1861 above is from an index, thus no more details.
So i don't know if Mary THOMSON & Mary McKEE are the one and same, or it's just some coincidence.
There is this marriage & 2 children from the IGI....
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WILLIAM MCKEE
MARY THOMSON
Marriage: 17 JUL 1857 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

JAMES MCKEE - Birth: 02 OCT 1857 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
WILLIAM MCKEE - Birth: 21 MAR 1861 High Church, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
==
Jack

thomsos · Post by **thomsos** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:05 am

Jack,
This is great, I'll start comparing right away, it certainly looks like tie in. Hugh was the descendant I had, he was a problem too, he was a widower married to an Agnes Palmer who was married 3 times, sometimes I feel like I'm going round in circles, but I'm sure I'll get there
Thanks for helping
Thomsos

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