1841 census CARNWATH .....

[Grace Carrick]

Can someone tell me why Carnwath 1841 census images are not available online at Scotlandspeople?

[LesleyB]

Hi Grace
According to Scotlands People there are 96 Smiths in Carnwath, so some 1841 data must be there.

Was it a particular name you were looking for? If you can post some details of what it was you were looking for then we might be able to help.

Best wishes
Lesley

[emanday]

Hi Grace,

I just happened to notice something while I was looking for graveyards listings for South Lanarkshire on genuki.

I noticed the name Carnwath while scrolling through the list and your post popped into my mind , so I copied the details. If you can't find who you are looking for on the census, maybe family names could be on the burial records

Here's what I copied...

Carnwath - Carnwath Cemetery, Forth Road
Carnwath - Old Carnwath Churchyard, Forth Road

South Lanarkshire Council
Cemeteries Service
Civic Centre
East Kilbride
G74 1AB

Tel : 01355 806111 (international +44 1355 806111)

[Grace Carrick]

Thanks for your reply Mandy and Lesley,
Yes there are some Carnwath images available for 1841, unfortunately the ones I am looking for aren't.

John Somerville 65 Carnwath G.Data. 632/00-001/00-033 no image.
John Somerville 70 Carnwath. 632/00-001/00-023 ditto.
Archibald Somerville. 15 Carnwath. 632/00-001/00-021 ditto.
I have them on the 1851 Census but was hoping to find out where they were in 1841.

I also have Bryce's in Carnwath. Again there are some images available but not all.
Why would that be, maybe bad writing?

[ronald]

Hello Grace, I was having a look at the 1841 Census for Carnwath, but I cannot see John somerville age 70yrs, John Somerville age 65yrs, or Archibald Somerville age 15, nor can I see them in the 1851 Census. but on the other hand I can find other Somerville's in the 1841 Census for Carnwath, perhaps you can tell me where you got your information on their ages, then hopefully,I will be able to help.

Yours. Ron.

[ronald]

Hello Grace, I forgot to mention that there are Brices's in Carnwath and are quite discernible on the Census, can you tell me their forenames.

Yours. Ron.

[Grace Carrick]

Thanks Emandy,
I have actually visited both graveyards, unfortunately like most people a great deal of my ancestors either have no stones or they have disappeared, especially in the oldest graveyard.

Thanks also Ron,

Well I do have the 1851 census for Carnwath which shows:
ARCHIBALD SOMERVILLE age 25 head. merchant. B. Carnwath.
MARTHA SOMERVILLE. 31 sister Homekeeper. B. ditto.
JOHN SOMERVILLE. 67 head. Proprietor of houses B. ditto.
CHRISTINA SOMERVILLE 45 wife B. Douglas?
AGNES SIMPSON. 7, B Douglas.

Christina (Simpson) was John Somerville's second wife and I haven't been able to find out who Agnes Simpson is yet.
When I fed in the above ages on Archibald Somerville's name only one came up correctly ie. with 15.
the only other John Somervilles that came up were the ages I have previously given, but as I can't download the image, I really don;t know if they are the right ones, or what relation to mine they are, however he may not have been in the district, there were an awful lot of Somerville's around then!! Any help appreciated that could take me that ten years back.
Grace.

[ronald]

Hello Grace, I have a copy of the 1841 Carnwath Census, with your Someville's and also the Bryce family. If you wish a copy, will you send me your postal address, via my e-mail, which is: ronald1_78 AT blueyonder.co.uk

Yours Ron.

Email address edited to prevent spamming. LesleyB

[JackyHSF]

Hi Grace

You may already have the base information, but in case you haven't and it helps:

Carnwath, Lanarkshire 632 Ed 1A p21
Christina Simpson b c1806 Age 35 Born Lanarkshire
Archibald Somerville b c1826 Age 15 Bork Lanarkshire Occ Zoo (sic)
John Somerville b c1786 Age 55 Born Lanarkshire Occ Innkr
Martha Somerville b c1821 Age 20 Born Lanarkshire
Mary Somerville b c1819 Age 22 Born Lanarkshire
William Somerville b c1826 Age 15 Born Lanarkshire Occ Mason Ap

Carnwath, Lanarkshire 632 Ed 1 p1
Margt Carr b c1834 Age 7 Born Lanarkshire
Margt Newbigging b c1791 Age 50 Born Lanarkshire
Ann Somerville b c1816 Age 25 Born Lanarkshire
John Somerville b c1786 Age 55 Born Lanarkshire Occ Ag Lab

Carnwath, Lanarkshire 632 Ed 1A p24
William Gibson b c1831 Age 10 Born Lanarkshire
John Somerville b c1771 Age 70 Born Lanarkshire Occ Carter

There seem to be lots more SOMERVILLEs and about 20 BRYCEs in Carnwath in 1841 - any particular BRYCEs you're interested in?

Jacky

[JackyHSF]

Hi Grace

Sorry, this is an oops I'm afraid there are about 20 BRYCEs in Lanarkshire on the index rather than in Carnwath!

Jacky