HEARTON - No census entries pre 1871 .....

[alimail]

Hello there
I am tracing the Hearton family for a friend, most of whom lived in the Girvan / Ayr area. There are 14 listed on the 1871 Census, most of whom were born in Ayr, but none at all on the 1861, 1851 or 1841 Censuses, apart from one Mary.
Some of my own line (Reid, Miller) only appear on later Censuses because they emigrated from Ireland mid 19th century, but the Heartons all seem to be "true" Scots, yet they are not listed. I've looked at Herton and Harton as variations, but none seem to fit.
I'm particularly interested in Agnes Hearton, listed in 1871 as a washerwoman with 2 illegitimate sons, the brazen hussy!! I'm trying to link her with the other Heartons of Girvan, but can't get the connection without information from the earlier censuses. I can't even find ANY reference, birth, death etc, with that surname previous to 1871.
Can anyone help?????

[emanday]

There are only a few HORTON's listed on IGI for Ayr region...

1. James Horton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1756 Of, Ayr, Ayr, Scotland

2. Jannet Horton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUL 1788 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland

3. Sydney George Horton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 FEB 1862 Sundrum, Ayr, Scotland

4. Jannet Horton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 JUL 1788

5. James Horton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1756 Of, Ayr, Ayr, Scotland

6. Jannet Horton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 JUL 1788 Ayr, Ayr, Scotland

7. Sydney George Horton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 25 FEB 1862 Sundrum, Ayr, Scotland

8. WILLIAM ORTON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 31 MAY 1759 Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland

Any good?

[AndrewP]

Hi Ali,

Searching the online IGI for births and marriages in Girvan for HEARTON and variations gives a few clues of spelling options.

Agnes HARTON, born 08-Mar-1828 to Samuel HARTON and Sarah Chalmers
Agnes McNeilly, born 18-Jun-1848 to John McNeilly and Mary HARTEN
John McNallie married Mary HEARTON 24-Sep-1848
John HARTON married Agnes Shaw 12-Nov-1854
Mary Johnston, born 06-Dec-1854 to William Johnston and Agnes HARTON
Francis McInally, born 30-Mar-1857 to John McInally and Mary HARTIN
Mary HARTEN, born 19-Apr-1860 to Mary HARTEN
John McInalley, born 09-Nov-1864 to John McInalley and Mary HARTON
William HEARTON, born 06-Jan-1868 to Agnes HEARTON
John Jackson HEARTON, born 24-May-1868 to John HEARTON and Agnes Shaw
John Rennison HEARTON, born 20-Feb-1871 to Agnes HEARTON
William Shaw HEARTON, born 31-Dec-1871 to John HEARTON and Agnes Shaw
Robert HEARTON married Jane Weir 10-Jun-1873
David HEARTON, born 16-Aug-1873 to Robert HEARTON and Jean Weir

All the best,

AndrewP

[alimail]

Many thanks to Mary and Andrew for their replies. The Hortons are not related, Mary, though I never thought of trying that particular variation of the name.
Andrew, you've found my washerwoman single parent, Agnes, though she spells her name with the added "e" in all other listings.
I haven't used the IGL with any success, and wondered if you might give a poor novice some advice on the best way to get info from it. I can never open any documents....but I am a bit of a computer moron, from a long line of illiterate poor folk with skeletons rattling all over the place....but that's another story!!!!
Again, thanks for the replies.

Alison

Researching Hearton,(Ayr and Govan) Reid, Miller, Brownlie, (Glasgow) Maclellan and Currie (Islay)

[Jack]

Hi Ali,
These taken from name indexes - sorry no more details.
And of course these spelllings MIGHT be different on Scotlandspeople.
==
1851 census 594 (480) Ed 4 p 4 (Girvan)
Agnes HARTING 20 (possibly living with a Janet McGhee 55, John McGee 18 )
[not too sure if this is Agnes - yours is 46 in 1881]

1851 census 594 (481) Ed 12 p 44 (Girvan)
John McANNALY 32
Mary McANNALY 25
Agnes McANNALY 3
John HEARTING 21 (probably with the family)
==
1861 census 594 Ed 10 p 7 (Girvan)
Mary McINALLY 36, b Girvan
John McINALLY 9, b Girvan
Margaret McINALLY 6, b Girvan
Francis McINALLY 4, b Girvan
Mary JOHNSTON 9, b Girvan (probably with the family)

1861 census 594 Ed 15 p 1 (Girvan)
Agnes HEART 29, b Girvan (possibly with a John Anderson 30 b Beith & Janet 29 b Ardrossan)
[again not sure if this is your Agnes]
==
Jack

[isobelc]

Hi Alison,

The Mary Johnston (9) apparently living with the McInally family in 1861 is possibly the same Mary Johnston who was living with Agnes (Washerwoman) in 1881 and listed as her daughter (although she was born in Dec 1854 and would have been only 6 in 1861) . If it is the same person then that would certainly seem to link Agnes with Mary Hartin/Hearton/Harten, wife of John McInally.

Regards,
Isobel
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[AndrewP]

Hi Alison,

I used a combination of the online IGI and Hugh Wallis's website.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... /index.htm

On the Hugh Wallis site, follow the links Scotland and Ayrshire to find Girvan. There you find the batch numbers that I used in the IGI search.

Then I searched for Last Name HEARTON in each of the C... and M... batches, then Father's last name HEARTON in all of these batches and finally mother's last name HEARTON in all of these batches. To perform these searches, input only the last name (in one of these last name boxes at a time), the region "British Isles" and the batch number. Leave all of the other boxes empty.

Then add together all of the results, throwing out any duplicates, and you should come up with the same list as I did. The online IGI is very tolerant of spelling variations, so all the diferent spellings came up in the results.

All thebest,

AndrewP

[isobelc]

Hi Alison,

Agnes is in the 1841 Girvan census as Agness Harton. She is living in Bridge Street in the Household of Thomas Robertson 35 , Hand Loom Weaver.Also listed are Sarah Robertson 35, William Robertson 5 Jane Robertson 2 John Harton 8.

Agnes Hearton, Washerwoman died in Girvan 19th Oct 1901 aged 72. She was single and parents were given as Samuel Hearton and Sarah Hearton m/s Chalmers. Agnes Harton daughter of Samuel and Sarah was born in Girvan on 8th March 1828.

The Sarah Robertson in the above census would appear to be Sarah Harton/Chalmers. Presumably Samuel was deceased by this time. William Robertson(aged 5 above) married Alice Williamson in Girvan in 1856. His parents are given as Thomas Robertson and Sarah Chalmers (so they don't appear to have been married to one another).

Sarah Harton or Chalmers died 7th Feb 1867 in Girvan aged 71. She is described as Widow of Samuel Harton, Cotton Weaver. Her parents were Robert Chalmers Cotton Weaver dec'd and Helen Chalmers nee Ross. The informant was her daughter ,Mary Harton.

John Harton ( age 8 above) appears to have married Agnes Shaw. They had a son Samuel Harton and a daughter Sarah Chalmers Harton born Calton Glasgow in the 1860's.

Mary McInelly/Herton died 11th November 1894 at 86 King Street Govan. She was the widow of John McInelly Shipyard labourer and was aged 66. Father Samuel Hertin, Mother Sarah Robertson previously Hertin nee Chalmers. Informant was her daughter Margaret McInelly.

Regards,
Isobel

[chearton]

Hi Ali,
My name is Carl Hearton. I have been researching the Hearton line for some time now, on and off, and have some information that may be of interest to you. I can trace my direct line back to Samuel Hearton and Sarah Chalmers, my GGGGGrandparents. Many years ago my grandfather b1904 told me that his Father(A P Hearton) and his Grandfather (Robert Hearton Married to Jane Weir, Girvan 1873) used to holiday in Ireland and that is where the Heartons came from. In fact my Great Grandfather still took holidays in Ireland up until his death in the 1950's. I have recently found out, following the death of a Great Uncle ,that my Great Grandfather took his holidays in Enniskillen. Following this I have since established that County Cavan is the home of the Harten, Hartin, Hartan, Harton, (Hearton?) surname. I believe that prior to Samuel, around 1800, that is from whence we came. Could be wrong, but it fits with what was passed down from my Grandfather and must be worth a look.

I hope this is of some interest to you.
Carl Alexander Hearton

[LesleyB]

Hi Carl
...and a warm welcome to Talking Scot

Best wishes
Lesley