Kilmarnock or Glasgow-Which census .....

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Kilmarnock or Glasgow-Which census .....

Post by angel » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:06 pm

Hi

Looking for Murdoch Muir age 14 in the 1841 census with his parents William and Elizabeth and possible siblings. I have him living on his own in Glasgow age 24 in 1851 but he was born in Kilmarnock hence my prediciment of where to search for him. So do I look for 3 x great grandpa in Glasgow or kilmarnock or Glasgow :?: Can anyone help please?

Heather
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Post by Jack » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:36 pm

Hi Heather,

Murdoch doesn't appear to be in Glasgow 1841, so maybe he's still in Ayrshire.

FreeCen hasn't as yet completed Kilmarnock 1841 - details at http://www.gavin-service.com/~freecen/

Jack

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Post by Jack » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:40 am

Hi Heather,

Jim Bundy has very kindly transcribed the 1841 census Kilmarnock to the Ayrshire Rootsweb pages last month.
But a quick search didn't show your Murdoch.

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AYRSHIRE/2005-05

Jim's 5 posts are just over halfway down.

Jack

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Post by angel » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:02 pm

Hi Jack

If he's not in Glasgow or Kilmarnock then I don't know where he would be but thats for the site I had a look as wel and could not find him.

Heather
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Post by Jack » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:10 pm

Hi Heather,

Just realised i'd misled you re the 1841 Kilmarnock Census - Jim Bundy hasn't transcribed all of it.

So it's still a chance that Murdoch is in the town.

Jack

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Post by angel » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:14 pm

Hi Jack

Thanks for letting me know I will keep on trying.

Heather
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Re Murdoch Muir

Post by Jack » Fri May 12, 2006 4:02 pm

Hi Heather,
You may have this by now, but in case not.
This looks your Murdoch MUIR and family in 1841 (from FreeCen).
Seems the family were in the town of Ayr, not Kilmarnock.
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1841/578 Place: Ayr-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 2a Pages: 26/27
Civil Parish: Ayr Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Address: High St
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MOIR William M 40 Riddle Maker Ayrshire
MOIR Elizabeth F 35 Ayrshire
MOIR Murdoch M 15 Ayrshire
MOIR Margaret F 12 Ayrshire
MOIR Jean F 10 Ayrshire
MOIR William M 8 Ayrshire
MOIR Robert M 6 Ayrshire
MOIR Andrew M 3 Ayrshire
MOIR Elizabeth F 10m Ayrshire
--
Jack

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Post by angel » Fri May 12, 2006 7:48 pm

Hello Jack


Many Thanks for looking for my family in Freecen I had found them just recently but can't find them in Ayr in 1851. There is a family in Lanark that could be them but it will have to wait til I have more credits.

This is my family in 1841 but in the 1861/1871 census Murdoch says he's born Kilmarnock. I have done searches for the children's births and can't find them and that is not putting in any place to search but doing the whole of Scotland with no luck.

Heather
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William Mair, Ayr 1851 & 1861

Post by Jack » Sat May 13, 2006 2:38 pm

Hi Heather,
You'll find William & family are still in the town of Ayr 1851, but he's as MAIRS;
There is only one William MAIRS age 50 in Ayr town - so he should be easily found on SP.
With him is wife Elizabeth 45 & 5 children, also a gr-son....

I'm 99% sure the family are still in Ayr 1861, with William as MAIR...but still aged 50....
And wife Elizabeth also aged 50 & 1 child, and still with them is what looks very like the gr-son, but with a surname change....
William's occupation is as a cooper, not a riddle maker (allied trades?); and the family have the same birthplaces as 1851.
Again, only one William MAIR age 50 in Ayr town 1861.

If you've any trouble with "No Image" on SP, then let me know and i'll get transcriptions to you.
Jack

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Post by angel » Sat May 13, 2006 3:30 pm

Jack you are a STAR!!!! :D

William is deceased by 1875 when his son dies and is down on that cert as a cooper.

:D Heather :D
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