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Jack
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Post by Jack » Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:35 pm

Hi Heather,

I'm being even slower than usual just now - is Agnes' 1868 MC not proof?

Jack

HK

Post by HK » Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:47 pm

Yes and no.I was told to always find more than 1 source of proof.So while her marriage states she is the child of John Laurie and Agnes McMillan that's all I have for now.(I have a relitive who has a different mother surname on his marriage and death.How do I know which is right?Believe me ,I have learned the hard way not to accept everything on these certs as gospel.Down that road leads madness. :lol:
HK

kaz
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Post by kaz » Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:57 pm

Hi Jack and Heather,
Sorry i didnt see your Q about John Lawrie and Helen/Ellen Browning til just now.

John and Ellen married in 1863 in Paisley.
His address was 9 Glen Street.
Hers was 11 Gordons Lane

bye for now

kaz
browning, lawrie, davidson,watson - paisley.
watson,russell,osborn - midlothian

Jack
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Post by Jack » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:32 pm

Hi Heather and Kaz,

What was the addresses for parents John & Agnes McMILLAN when they died in 1880?
Who were the informants on the DCs?

Ta - Jack

kaz
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Post by kaz » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:42 pm

Hi Jack,

sorry but i havent accessed the deaths for john and agnes yet, i wont be able to until next week.
Just thought i would say John Lawrie and his wife Ellen emigrated to the usa in 1885 with one of her brothers and his family.They were part of "The Ormiston Colony" who sailed on the Furnessia.

bye for now
kaz
browning, lawrie, davidson,watson - paisley.
watson,russell,osborn - midlothian

Jack
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Post by Jack » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:00 pm

Thanks Kaz,

I'll be rather surprised if their address isn't Glen St.!

Good to know that young John was at 9 Glen St on his 1863 MC - same as Agnes in 1868. Hopefully parents are still there in 1871.

Jack

HK

Post by HK » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:39 pm

Hello Jack,
Agnes Lawrie married to John Lawrie (Shawl Weaver)
17 Sept.1880 5pm Glen street ,Paisley F 69 years old
father James McMillan (shawl weaver) dec.
mother________________________- dec.
Bronchitis,several years as cert.by Thomas Graham MD
signed by John Lawrie Jr. son 6 Buchanan Terrace (not on Paisley Street index)

18 Sept. 1880 at Paisley
Hugh Allison
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John Lawrie shawl weaver widower of Agnes McMillan
28 Oct 1880 9 Glen Street, Paisley M 71 years old
father James Lawrie (shawl weaver) dec.
mother Mary Lawrie MS Nicholson dec.
Cysititis 1 year as cert. by Thomas Graham MD
signed by John Lawrie son 6 Buchanan Terrace

28 Oct.1880 at Paisley
Hugh Allison

HK

kaz you go after James and Mary next week.I already had one of these and hadn't printed the other.Paper shortage. :lol:

Jack
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Post by Jack » Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:41 pm

Thanks Heather,

I know what you mean - one MC isn't enough.... I (like most folk) have very many Statutory Records with wrong names - mainly DCs, but lots of MCs, and even BCs.

But i'm sure you & Kaz have the right family, and hopefully the censuses will bring everything together.

Buchanan Terrace was on the Greenock Rd (a nothwards continuation of Caledonia St). I *think* they were buildings that formed part of it, and not actually a side street.

Jack
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ps - My "To Do Box" has "Make list of all Paisley's streets from 1841 onwards and where they were". That was 2yrs ago - one of these days....

HK

Post by HK » Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:23 pm

I didn't even know I had Agnes' death.I had filed it wrong. :roll:
But I figured if I had that one maybe I had John's ,so I checked previous searches on SP.Bingo!To be fair I have Lauries on both sides of my family and I may have been looking for one and when it didn't fit forgot to check the other.You know what it's like when you have a thought rolling around and you want to focus on it.I'll check and see if there is any other little jems I missed.
HK

kaz
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Post by kaz » Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:39 pm

Hi heather,

Just to let you know went looking for james and mary on SP, no joy alas, so have email tricia at library to see if she can help.

bye for now
kaz
browning, lawrie, davidson,watson - paisley.
watson,russell,osborn - midlothian