Mystery - where is birth record

[crayspond]

Hi to All,

I am scanning over my Beveridge family in Fife - still on the elusive trail to go back further by trying the naming pattern route. I have just noticed that in one of the generations i can't find a birth record for James Beveridge - son of George Beveridge and Margaret Drummond. He would probably be the first son - they were married 5/3/1826 in Dunfermline. James appears on the 1841 census in New Row Dunfermline age 10 working as a LW - Linen weaver or Loom Worker. There is also a Margaret on the census age 8 - again i can't find her birth details. Other children i have found are :Elspeth (1832) George (1835) John (1837) David (1839) Thomas (1841).
I have trawled the LDS site and also SP but have not found anything. Can anyone suggest anything else?
George senior's mother was Ann father John. Margaret senior's father was William mother Elizabeth yet she has not used any of these names in the naming pattern!

Regards
Ailsa

[Currie]

Hello Ailsa,

In the Scottish Parochial Register survey of the 1840s Dunfermline Parish got full marks for record keeping, so I guess that the sloppy record keeping and missing records thing is less likely to be the reason they’re not to be found .http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Gtg ... AJ&pg=PA69

You can get IGI batch numbers from the Hugh Wallis site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... #PageTitle
These appear to be the batch numbers for baptisms in Dunfermline that broadly cover the period in question. C119504 = 1825-1834, C119505 = 1834-1849, C119506 = 1820-1854, C119508 = 1833-1854.

If you go to the IGI search page and input a batch number and British Isles region, you can leave everything else blank and get a full list of all baptisms in the batch, or just input the batch number and the father’s first name, or whatever you like. It’s pretty flexible and you can use all sorts of combinations. Sometimes that helps to find people where the name has been messed up or whatever.

If you haven’t already tried that with each of the batch numbers, give it a go, and maybe it will help. Check to see that they are male/female batches but these appear to be ok.

Lots of luck,
Alan

[crayspond]

Thanks Alan for the quick reply. I have looked at the Hugh Wallis site - it is time consuming but usually gives results - not this time though
I just done a search on all Records and all Parishes but still nothing - even using B*******e in case the spelling was way out - but only came up with a James Bryce.
My next thought is maybe they married and then moved to England, Ireland or Wales or further, while there had James and Margaret and then returned back to Dunfermline. I may never know as the census only began in 1841. The annoying thing is James and Margaret are definitely there on the 1841 census in Glasgow. There may have been more children as they married in 1826 and going by the age of James (10) in 1841 he would have been born c 1831 which leaves a gap of 5 years from when they married until he was born.
Time maybe to move on to the next generation.......

Regards
Ailsa

[crayspond]

Hi All,

Still no luck with James Beveridge - i have used up 40 credits on possible deaths for him looking back on my searches i came across this one on the 1871 census

1 1871 BETTERIDGE JAMES M 41 SHIPPING - ROYAL NAVY /SHIPPING 902/0S 009/00 002

I have not been able to find him after the 1861 census in Bridgeton - his wife and kids on the 1871 and she is still down as married.
Can anyone have a look for me - I would be grateful.

Thanks
Ailsa

[SarahND]

Hi Ailsa,
That one was a Leading Stoker in the Royal Navy and was born in Portsea, Hampshire.

Sorry,
Sarah

[crayspond]

Thanks Sarah,
You were a great help to me when tracing David Beveridge (nephew of James) to Boston Ma. I wrote to the living relatives on 3 occasions but sadly no one ever replied.
I am grateful for your help with James as there are so many of them - i narrowed a list down looking at deaths from 1865 to 1882. Birth year 1832 within 5 years. Reason for this is he had to be around in 1867 as they had twin girls born 4/10/1867 Ann and Janet. I found the death of Ann age 2 but not for Janet. Catherine his wife and two daughters appear on the 1881 census in Bridgeton and she is widowed at that time. As I have no birth cert i am assuming from the 1861 census where he is 32 that he was born c.1829.

1883 BERRIDGE JAMES BEVERIDGE M 46 HAWICK /ROXBURGH 789/00 0264
2 1866 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 36 DYSART /FIFE 426/00 0131
3 1873 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 42 DUNFERMLINE LANDWARD /FIFE 424/02 0134
4 1873 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 39 FALKLAND /FIFE 428/00 0031
5 1877 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 42 STEVENSTON /AYR 615/00 0079
6 1879 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 45 BEATH (FIFE) /FIFE 410/00 0050
7 1882 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 47 PERTH /PERTH 387/00 0373
8 1883 BEVERIDGE JAMES M 52 ABERDOUR (FIFE) /FIFE 401/00 0011
9 1883 BEVERIDGE JAMES BERRIDGE M 46 HAWICK /ROXBURGH 789/00 0264

Of the above the only ones i haven't tried are nos 2,4,6,7,8 and 9.
It's driving me mad

Ailsa

[SarahND]

Hi Ailsa,
Given their ages, it is likely that several of the children married between 1871 and 1881. If you have their marriage certs, is James listed as alive then? It would help to narrow down the time frame. His eldest son George has a 7 year old child by 1881 (if I have the right census record) so he was likely married around 1873.

There sure are a lot of James Beveridges though You have my sympathy!

Regards,
Sarah

[crayspond]

Hi Sarah,
Great minds think alike as they say -I also found George on the census in 1881 with wife Margaret but without checking a marriage I couldn't be sure it was him.
I have just downloaded the marriage cert and it is him - married on the 29th December 1871 at Session House, Dale St Glasgow to Margaret Sinclair. The interesting thing about it is his father is James Beveridge profession "Seaman merchant service". Sadly i think he might have followed his brother Thomas who was also a seaman and who drowned in 1883. He was still alive at this time. At least I am a bit further on!

Ailsa

[SarahND]

Hi Ailsa =D>
I take it that James was still living at the time of George's marriage? And interesting that he, too, went to sea. I don't see him on any vessels anywhere in 1871, there are just a couple of John Beveridges. So at least you know he was still living (or his son thought he was) at the end of 1871. That eliminates #2 above. Now all you have to do is track the marriages of the other children until one says he has died...

Cheers,
Sarah

[crayspond]

Sarah,
Yes - that is good I now know he was alive in 1871 (or thought to be). Interestingly his (James) other brother John has also proved to be a problem to trace. could he be one of the John's you have found? He was born in Fife in 1837 but again i have found no trace of his death. Does he fit into this age bracket?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15393&p=122940&hili ... idge#p1229

Thanks for the help,

Ailsa