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Post by marilyn morning » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:24 am

Looks like I'm going to have to leave this to you for a few days. I just did a lot of Googling, but didn't turn up anything on a Parade St. hospital. Looks like the RI Historical Society has all the old newspapers, but it is there and I am here!
Hi Carol,

The RIHS has all the old newspapers on what? Any mention of what newspaper it was? The Providence Journal, because if so, they have on- line archives. Have a great trip.

Regards
Marilyn

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Post by speleobat2 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:38 am

Hi Marilyn,

I just posted a picture of my great grandfather George Clerihew's gravesite. I'm amazed. The headstone looks like it is new!

http://www.talkingscot.com/gallery/disp ... &pos=-1414

Hope it comes up ok!

Carol

Gallery url added by Marilyn
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by marilyn morning » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:46 am

Hi Carol,

Congratulations you found him! The stone is holding up very well for its age. So how did it feel to stand in front of his stone?

I have some additional information for you, but I need to go out to my car, for the file. :lol:

Marilyn

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Post by marilyn morning » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:23 am

Back Again and I left the file back at work, so I'll have to go by memory.

Remember the Nursing home that you were able to find on the Providence Tax Accessor's site? Well that was the Parade Street Hospital that your Aunt Jessie worked at in 1910 and its now a Nursing Home . This was confirmed to me by a lovely lady, Val who works for the Rhode Island Dept. of Health. Val grew up in this neighborhood and told me all about her memories of walking past this hospital on her way to School. Val guessed the hospital closed sometime in the 1950's. It was a very small psychiatric hospital. At this point in her story, my phone rang and I had to hang up, but she was telling me a little of the history behind the hospital. For now, until I can call her back (and get my notes :D) I'll save this part for another time. This was an Irish neighborhood.

Marilyn

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Post by speleobat2 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:47 pm

Hi Marilyn,

I'm still in Michigan and have been busy running around.

Thanks for the URL. I was really surprised by the good condition of the headstone. Get Granite! I guess-- if you have a choice!

We are off to the second cemetery tomorrow morning to find my grandparents and Jessie and Mary's graves, then headed home. We may stop near my husband's hometown in southern Ohio and try to find the cemetery that his great grandparents are buried in. This will be something to watch because he was only five or six the last time he went to put flowers on their graves!

Carol
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by speleobat2 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:27 pm

Made it back from Michigan. This trip was like a family reunion, but I was the only living relative there! I guess being in a cemetery or two just before Halloween was appropriate.

Along with finding my great grandfather George Clerihew's grave in Ohio, we also were able to visit the cemetery in Royal Oak, MI where my grandparents were buried. I knew where they were and also my grandmother's sister Mary Munro and my grandfather's sister Jessie Milne Clerihew. What I didn't know was that the rest of my grandfather's siblings were also buried in this same cemetery and plot! :D

We had a map from the office, but this cemetery requires the kind of headstones which are flat in the ground so they can mow over them so I was wandering around reading them when my husband found my grandfather's grave. While I was looking at it, my husband said, "Who are the Taylors?" I almost undid my neck whipping around to look where he was standing! :o Isabella (Bella) Taylor was my grandfather's other sister and her husband John Fraser Taylor was there too. A few empty sites to the left were John Clerihew and his wife Barbara, my grandfather's younger brother and his wife. None of their children are there though.

The sun was shining so I was able to take a bunch of pictures. This was another piece of luck. The day before it had been pouring rain!

After I returned home, I started looking around Bridgeport, CT for John and Barbara. To my surprise, I found great grandfather George living in an apartment on Capital Ave. in 1916 after he arrived from Scotland. :o John and Barbara were in another of those huge old houses made over into apartments at 95 Morehouse. In 1925, after George is gone, John and Barbara have moved back to Providence into 3 story 3 family house with 15 bedrooms! It was at 68 Ninth St. (Love that tax assessors database, Marilyn!) Unfortunately, John and Barbara managed to avoid the census takers both in 1920 and 1930 so I don't know much about them!

Carol
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by Currie » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:46 am

Hello Carol,

Have you tried looking for Clerihews in this Ancestry database?

http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?ht ... 3a7858%3a0

e.g There's a short death notice for a Charles Milne Clerihew died 26 Aug 1903 Roseville NJ in the NY Times on 30 Aug.

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Post by speleobat2 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:15 pm

Hi Alan,

Thanks for this link. I hadn't come across it. What's most interesting is that all the listings come from the NY Times including the ones after 1930 which the Times wants to charge me $4.95 a piece for if I get them from the Times archives site! I searched Clerihew and came up with 13 listings. Unfortunately, these branches aren't connected with my Clerihew branch directly. I've bookmarked the site for future reference though!

Carol
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by marilyn morning » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:36 pm

Hi Carol,

Copied from an old issue of Family Tree Magazine

Every year, the Milstein Division of The New York Public Library attracts more then 35,000 genealogists from throughout the US and receives mail inquires from around the world. Its one of the library's most heavily used divisions.

Servies: Staff will perform limited research in response to written requests. For example, they will "look up names in published indexes, check census maps of New York City census districts (or) look for an individual in up to three years of city directories." NYPL Express provides photocopies in response to mail, phone, fax and e-mail requests. See

www.nypl.org./doc_serve.html for fees and an order form.

Contact: Irma and Paul Milstein Division of United States History, Local History and Genealogy, Room 121, The New York Public Library, Humanities and Social Sciences Library, Fifth Avenue and 42 Street, New York, NY 10018, (212) 930-0838, histref@nypl.org, www.nypl.org/research/chss/lhg/genea.html

I'm not sure what the fee will be, but I doubt if it will be $4.95 for each copy? :roll:

And for Ohio

Services: The staff does limited research in response to mail requests. To search the surname index to the library's collection of compiled genealogies, go to www.cincinnatilibrary.org and click on Connect to the Library catalog. Select A for all locations and menu item 9 for other types of searches. Then choose menu item 6 to find books with a specific surname in their title, or menu item 13 to search for books that have the surname in their index.

Contact: Public Library fo Cincinnati and Hamilton County, 800 Vine St,Cincinnati, OH 45202 www.cincinnatilibrary.org/info/main/hi (513) 369-3123 For e-mail contacts, see www.cincinnatilibrary.org/reference

Regards
Marilyn

P.S. There's also a listing for The Birmingham Public Library (Alabama) and The Detroit Public Library. Let me know if you need these address's.

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Post by speleobat2 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:46 pm

Thanks Marilyn,

I'm collecting a lot of bookmarks today!

The Detroit Public Library will do look ups of obits for $15 with the exact date of death, $25 without it. They will send out microfilm by interlibrary loan. When I stopped at my local library to ask about remote access, everybody looked at me blankly so I haven't asked about a microfilm reader yet!

Carol
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary