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dollard
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Scott in 1901

Post by dollard » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:19 pm

I would like to trace this family back a bit so I was hoping I could find them on the 1901 census. This is what a 93 year old lady told me about her ancestors.
James Scott and Marion had the following children in order; James, Robert born 1891, Stuart born 1891, Thomas, and Peggy. They were all born and raised in Edinburgh. Stuart was female-a twin to Robert. Her name may have been spelled Stewart. I suspect it was her middle name and she may have had a more feminine first name. The first born James was killed early in WWI. I've searched extensively on the 1901 census indexes at ScotlandsPeople and Ancestry.com without any luck. I think I should be able to find that combination of people. Could Scott have been spelled differently? Does anyone have any suggestions.

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Post by Pandabean » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:37 pm

Hi Dollard,

Unfortunately I do not have any credits on SP at the moment but doing I did a quick search for Stuart/Stewart Scott and came up with one hit in Midlothian.

I entered the name Stewart Scott and since you gave a date of 1891 as a birth year I put the age range between 5 and 15 and the place was Midlothian.

Edit: Sorry I just re-read what you said Stewart Scott was Female and she may have another first name. :oops:

Do you have any more information such as when they were married?
Andy
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Post by Pandabean » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:53 pm

Ok just did some more digging.

If you use the second person feature for searching censuses it can help narrow down some people.

For the 1901 census I entered:

Surname: Scott
Forename: James
Second Person Name: Marion

Midlothian

This returns 7 results. It may be worth looking at them to see if the family are in there.
Andy
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[b]McDonald[/b]
[b]Greenlees & Fairnie[/b] (Musselburgh area)
[b]Johnston, Whitson, Whitecross, Runciman [/b] (Haddingtonshire)
[b]Rutherford [/b](Dumbartonshire, Airth & Larbert)
[b]Ross, Stevenson & Robb[/b](Falkirk)[/size]

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Re: Scott in 1901

Post by nelmit » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:43 pm

dollard wrote:I would like to trace this family back a bit so I was hoping I could find them on the 1901 census. This is what a 93 year old lady told me about her ancestors.
James Scott and Marion had the following children in order; James, Robert born 1891, Stuart born 1891, Thomas, and Peggy. They were all born and raised in Edinburgh. Stuart was female-a twin to Robert. Her name may have been spelled Stewart. I suspect it was her middle name and she may have had a more feminine first name. The first born James was killed early in WWI. I've searched extensively on the 1901 census indexes at ScotlandsPeople and Ancestry.com without any luck. I think I should be able to find that combination of people. Could Scott have been spelled differently? Does anyone have any suggestions.
Stuart's 1891 birth in Midlothian is there on Scotlands People. You could start with that to get info on her parents.

There is a female Stuart Scott age 0 indexed in 1891 living with a James but not in Midlothian. It is such an unusual name I would hope it is her.

Kind regards,
Annette M

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Post by SarahND » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:21 pm

Hi Annette :D
That looks like this family:

1891
12 Renny Place, Dundee, Angus
James Scott, 33, Head, born Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Tailor's Cutter
Marjory P Scott, 28, Wife, born Edinburgh, Midlothian
Violet Mary P Scott, 5, Daughter, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Arthur James Scott, 2, Son, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Lily B Stuart Scott, 9 Mo, Daughter, born Dundee, Forfarshire
Wm Robertson Pringle, 18, Brother-in-law, born Edinburgh, Midlothian, Tailor
Maggie Pringle, 16, Sister-in-law, born Edinburgh, Midlothian

There are enough similarities that, given the vagaries of memory even for those of us who are not yet 93, it just might be the family... The elements are there: James and Mar* as parents. She and her siblings born in Edinburgh, a daughter named Stuart... Well, stranger things have happened!

All the best,
Sarah

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Post by nelmit » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:27 pm

Thanks a lot for that Sarah but I don't think it can be them as I definitley found a birth in 1891 at Midlothian for a female Stuart Scott and Lily would have been born in 1890.

Best wishes,
Annette M

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Post by SarahND » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:28 pm

:shock:
Okay, what about these children living at the Adamson Institute in 1901?

1901
Adamson Institute Ceres, Cupar, Fife
Stuart Scott, 8, Boarder, Female, born Leith, Scotland, Scholar
Roberts Scott, 8, Boarder, Male, born Leith, Scotland, Scholar
Maggie Scott, 5, Boarder, Female, born Leith, Scotland, Scholar

Regards,
Sarah

Edit: According to: http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Cupar

Adamson Institute (a holiday home for poor children from Leith)

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Post by nelmit » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:39 pm

SarahND wrote::shock:
Okay, what about these children living at the Adamson Institute in 1901?

1901
Adamson Institute Ceres, Cupar, Fife
Stuart Scott, 8, Boarder, Female, born Leith, Scotland, Scholar
Roberts Scott, 8, Boarder, Male, born Leith, Scotland, Scholar
Maggie Scott, 5, Boarder, Female, born Leith, Scotland, Scholar

Regards,
Sarah

Edit: According to: http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Cupar

Adamson Institute (a holiday home for poor children from Leith)
Excellent Sarah!! :D

When I was wee they were called residential schools.

Best wishes,
Annette M

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Post by dollard » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:48 am

Sorry I'm so slow in replying. I thought I was supposed to get a message when someone replied but..
Nelmit I don't get a birth for a female Stuart Scott on SP in 1891. I get one in 1892 but the parents are wrong. ?? Are you sure you get one in 1891?
SarahND I don't think that is the family I'm looking for but the 3 kids at the Adamston Institute sure look like them. Big problem though as the parents aren't with them as of course it is them that I want the birth dates and places for so I can trace them back on earlier census.

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Post by dollard » Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:10 am

Thanks to all who replied.
Pandabean I wanted to recheck my searches before I replied about those 7 you found on the 1901 in Midlothian. I viewed a couple more of them but them aren't right. The Marion turns out to be a daughter rather than wife or is the wife but the children are wrong.
Hmm..