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Aberdeen districts 1841 Census

Post by speleobat2 » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:45 pm

Hi all,

I'm trying to locate my great great grandparents on the 1841 census in Aberdeen. Their marriage cert. just says Aberdeen and my great great grandmother's death cert in 1855 says St. Nicholas, but St. Nicholas isn't on the list of districts in 1841.

The choices in 1841 are:

Aberdeen East
Aberdeen Greyfriars
Aberdeen Greyfriars and West
Aberdeen North
Aberdeen North and Old Machar
Aberdeen South
Aberdeen St. Clements
Aberdeen West

Which one of the above would St. Nicholas have been in?

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by WilmaM » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:48 pm

Have you got them [or her] in the 1851 census?
That could give you a better area to work to.
Wilma

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Post by AndrewP » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:49 am

Hi Carol,

Difficult one. The 1851 census, like the 1841 census, was done using the parishes. The registration districts came about in 1855 with the advent of GROS. The censuses in Scotland of 1861 onwards came under the responsibility of GROS, and used their registration districts. In most rural areas, the registration districts were made from the existing parishes. However that was not the case in the cities, where new districts were created, and it can be difficult to find which registration districts were made up of which (whole or parts of) parishes.

From 1855, Aberdeen City was divided into two registration districts - St Nicholas and Old Machar.

I hope someone who knows the Aberdeen area can come to your help.

All the best,

AndrewP
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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:50 am

Hi Wilma,

Yes, in 1851 they are in Old Machar at 123 Skene St. The family stays in Old Machar just changing streets right through 1891.

I'm interested in the 1841 census because I'm also trying to find Janet's mother, Mary Milne. Janet marries James Longmuir in 1840 and has her first child in 1841. I have a possiblity for her mother, but haven't been able to confirm it so I was hoping to find Janet's location in 1841 thinking that her mother might not be far away.

One of dozens of loose ends that I'd like to tie up some day!

Carol
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by AndrewP » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:54 am

On digging a bit deeper, it looks like St Nicholas registration district was made up of the following enumeration districts consisting of these parishes in the 1861 census.

ED 1-8 East parish
ED 9-25 West parish
ED 26-34 North parish
ED 35-40 South parish
ED 41-49 Greyfriars parish
ED 50-60 St Clements parish

All the best,

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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:55 am

Thanks Andrew,

I had a feeling it was probably something along that line.

If it helps any, the marriage was performed by the minister of John Knox parish, but the certificate doesn't say where the ceremony took place! Most of my other relatives were married at home, of course, I don't know where home was for these two!

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:57 am

Just got your next post. Looks like I have a choice of six locations!

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by AndrewP » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:03 am

Hi Carol,

From what I can see on the maps, St Nicholas covered most of built-up Aberdeen. Old Machar looks to have been to the north of the city, north of the River Don.

All the best,

AndrewP

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Post by nelmit » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:04 am

speleobat2 wrote:Hi Wilma,

Yes, in 1851 they are in Old Machar at 123 Skene St. The family stays in Old Machar just changing streets right through 1891.

I'm interested in the 1841 census because I'm also trying to find Janet's mother, Mary Milne. Janet marries James Longmuir in 1840 and has her first child in 1841. I have a possiblity for her mother, but haven't been able to confirm it so I was hoping to find Janet's location in 1841 thinking that her mother might not be far away.

One of dozens of loose ends that I'd like to tie up some day!

Carol
This looks like them in 1841 courtesy of FREECEN -

Piece: SCT1841/168 Place: Old Machar -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 17
Civil Parish: Gilcomston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 3 Page: 6
Address: 9 Skene Row

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LONGMUIR James M 25 Wright Outside Census County (1841)
LONGMUIR Janet F 20 Aberdeenshire
LONGMUIR John M 3m

Aberdeenshire

There are a few Milne families along the road at Skene St but I'm sure you know what a common name it is in Aberdeen.

What was Janet's father's name and her mother's maiden name?
Regards,
Annette

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Post by speleobat2 » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:24 pm

Excellant Annette!!!

I haven't been able to find any of the family on Ancestry so they must be horribly mistranscribed. I can't find them even with the information you just gave me, but I've only had one cup of coffee this morning so I'll try again later!

Janet's parents were William and Mary Milne. William had died by 1840 when Janet married. She also had a sister Robertson and with a name like that she should show up everywhere, but so far I've only found her on the 1851 census which is the family that I am trying to confirm. Robertson and mother Mary and a couple of others were living at 119 Skene then. I'm 99% sure that it is the right one, but I would still like to find them in 1841.

After I settle this one, my next quest is to find Mary Gordon in Glasgow. How many of them do you suppose there will be... :lol:

Carol :D
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary