Waterside House Tullynessle & Forbes

tishgibbons · Post by **tishgibbons** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:33 pm

Hi all,

I have a Helen Mitchell a Cook at Waterside House in Tullynessle & Forbes in the 1871 census and I'm trying to track her down after that date. However I cannot find Waterside House in the 1881 census. Also would Waterside House have belonged to a large estate or a landlord who might have had estates elsewhere? This Helen Mitchell is one of my brick walls and is driving me up the wall too!

Tish

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:44 pm

Hi Tish,

Waterside Farm is there in the 1881 census - very likely the same place. If you have the 1881 CDs, go to Search, then Neighbors - Advanced Query. Search for Waterside Forbes and you will get 8 results - Waterside Farm and its neighbouring cottages.

One disappointment - no Helen Mitchell.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

tishgibbons · Post by **tishgibbons** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:46 pm

Thanks Andrew,

I don't have the CDs, struggling with SCotlandsPeople. Anyway if there's no Helen Mitchell I'll just keep banging my head off that wall.

Thanks

Tish

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:51 pm

Hi Tish,

What was her age in 1871, and what was given as her birthplace?

One possibility...

Dwelling: Rattray House
Census Place: Crimond, Aberdeen, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203454 GRO Ref Volume 184 EnumDist 1 Page 10
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
James CUMINE M 71 M Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Proprietor Of Land Farming 200 Acres Partly Pasture
Harriet Hay CUMINE M 63 F Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Landed Proppietors Wife
Mary Elizabeth BURNETT M 38 F Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Military Officers Wife
Ethel BURNETT 4 F India
Rel: Grand Daur
Mary Bertha BURNETT 2 F Crimond, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Grand Daur
James G. L. BURNETT 1 M Crimond, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Grandson
Elizabeth A. SMITH U 33 F Kinellar, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Nurse
Helen MITCHELL U 51 F Keith, Banff, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Cook
Helen ANDERSON U 28 F Ellon, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Tablemaid
Jessie A. ROBERTSON U 21 F Foveran, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Nurse Maid
William BLACK M 21 M Slains, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Coachman
Janet WATSON U 26 F Boyndie, Banff, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Laundry Maid
John THOM W 35 M Old Machar, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Workman
Occ: Upholsterer

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

tishgibbons · Post by **tishgibbons** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:05 pm

Andrew,

she was born in Strathdon in 1846 but gives her age as 22 in the 1871 census. I was prepared to accept it was her though on the basis that there wasn't any other Helen Mitchell born in Strathdon around that time.

Tish

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:10 pm

Hi Tish,

No obvious candidates on the "North of Scotland" CD. Four possibilities there - she married, she moved further away, she died, she is indexed wrongly. I would favour the marriage one as the most probable - do you have any clues to that one?

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

tishgibbons · Post by **tishgibbons** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:06 am

Anderw,

No clues really. She had an illegitimate child in 1868. No father's name mentioned. I don't know if there's any significance in her calling him Charles; she had a brother and an uncle by that name. We had always been told that she had gone to Australia and her parents' poor relief records state that she was married. She was referred to as Nelly in those records but searching there has not got me anywhere. I haven't been able to trace Charles either. In 1871 he was with his grandmother Margaret Mitchell in Strathdon. It's so frustrating!

Tish