Funeral of JAMES ROBERTSON Glasgow 1863

[philrob]

Greetings to all Readers fom a new subscriber.

I am looking for a burial place for my GGGGrandfather James Robertson. He died on April 11 1863 at his home (5 Barony Street) in Glasgow.
I have tried various avenues to find details of where he may be buried but so far to no avail. Can anyone please advise me.

Best Regards to you all

philrob
Western Australia

[paddyscar]

Hi Philrob and Welcome to TalkingScot!

Have you had a look at the death registry on SP? If you can post the information given there, someone may be able to advise the most likely spot and how to access the info. Naming the likely church membership would be of help also.

Frances

[LesleyB]

Hi Philrob

have tried various avenues to find details of where he may be buried

Can you tell us which avenues you have tried already?

Best wishes
Lesley

[philrob]

LesleyB and Paddyscar,
Thanks for your replies. The most prominent avenue that I have tried was through (a) locating the death notice in Scotlandspeople which was fairly straightforward. I then (2) published the details in a different forum to this one but unfortunately did not receive a single reply. At that time, which was quite a while ago now, I was not aware of this particular forum. I do not know any further details other than James Robertson died two weeks before his son William's marriage to Mary Adam. This couple then migrated to Liverpool.
I was hoping to find the cemetery where James was buried and possibly request a photograph or details of the grave.

Thank you for your interest.

philrob in West OZ.

[LesleyB]

hi Philrob
One way to find out is to contact Glasgow City Council at:
Cemeteries & Crematoria Registrar
20 Trongate
Glasgow
G1 5ES

Phone:0141 287 3961
E-mail: les@glasgow.gov.uk

I believe they make a charge for providing burial information if a search is required, which I'm guessing is the case here as you are not sure which cemetery is involved. As far as I'm aware they do not offer a photographic service. However once you had a lair number (and thus a location) in a particular cemetery, then there may be some kind member on TS who might be in a position to take a photo.

As Frances mentioned, sometimes it helps to know which church the family attended e.g the marriage you speak of as happening not long before the death- what church was involved there? Some of the cemeteries in Glasgow are for all denominations, but some are very specifically for Cathollic or Protestant burials. St Mungos RC Church seems to be a church in the area.

Another souce of possible information is the Mitchell Llibrary in Glasgow who hold many older monumental inscription records. Problem may be that although you know where he died, he may not be buried in the nearest or most obvious cemetery, and furthermore, if there is no stone (many people could not afford stones), then he wil not be noted in any MI book, only in records of burial, some of which the Mitchell library also hold on Microfilm, but that can be a long job to check if you don't know which cemetery as there are no indexes...

Barony Street (see Virtual Mithell site for pics) http://www.mitchelllibrary.org/virtualmitchell/
is in the Townhead area of Glasgow - I'm not from Glasgow so maybe some of our members from there will be able to advise on likely burial places. I'm probably wrong, but maybe the Eastern Necropolis is likely?

Lastly, if your man was quite well off, his death and forthcoming funeral may get a notice in the papers - that often gives place of burial so that friends could attend.

Best wishes
Lesley

[LesleyB]

p.s. having looked at your other post concening this family
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

She is buried in Light Hill Cemetery
She was the daughter of James and Sarah Johnston (nee Miller)
She is also described as a widow and a pauper.

it may be the case that James, if having very little money, may be in a paupers grave in "common ground", so no stone and no "X marks the spot" just an area of grassland in a cemetery.

[philrob]

Hi LesleyB,

William Robertson and Mary Adam were married at home 5 Barony Street, Glasgow. Apparently the celebrant was a Doctor (?) Miller, associated with St Matthews, apparently Free Church of Scotland church. This info came from the Glasgow Herald Newspaper of the time. I am puzzled as to why a Doctor was involved in the marriage celebration. Why not Father Miller?

Coincidentally apropos my earlier postings regarding James Robertson, he died on April 11 which was later my birthday. His son William was married on April 28, which was my wedding day 150 odd years later?

[LesleyB]

Hi Philrob

Apparently the celebrant was a Doctor (?) Miller, associated with St Matthews, apparently Free Church of Scotland church. This info came from the Glasgow Herald Newspaper of the time. I am puzzled as to why a Doctor was involved in the marriage celebration. Why not Father Miller?

One of my relatives was a Free Church minister. As with mine, I suspect yours was a "Reverend Dr." Doctor as in a Degree, probably a Doctor of Divinity qualification, nothing to do with medical doctors. As far as I am aware, "father" is a term used more in the RC church (on my other side!) - it is not a term I've heard used in either Church of Scotland or in Free Church records.

Best wishes
Lesley