Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

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Hugo
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Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

Post by Hugo » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:46 pm

Could Mary Donnachie b abt 1830 in Eaglesham be Margaret Donachee age10 b Renfrewshire who appears in the 1841 census in the Abbey district?

Margaret and her brother (?) are in the household of Sarah Thomson (a name I don't recognise) and the occupation of Margaret and her brother is given as Drawboy (I think).
Hugo

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Re: Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

Post by Russell » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:36 pm

Hi Hugo
The only answer right now would have to be - possibly :!:

The surname could have a wide variety of spellings depending on the accent used and if Margaret was being fostered/adopted/cared for by a relative, especially one with a broad Renfrewshire or, even more likely, an Irish accent then the spelling was just as the enumerator heard it.
Eaglesham was certainly part of Abbey Parish then and was a weaving village. I think they were cotton weavers predominantly which fits the 'drawboy' occupation.
Have you seen the original census entry? Sometimes enumerators used their own shorthand codes for their notes and when they transcribed a name like Marg.. It was entered as Mary.
If it was a transcript you saw the same type of transcription error could occur.
Although there is no sign of her birth on IGI it could well be that her parents were Irish Catholic since many came over to Scotland to continue in the weaving trade. As you know from other posts the Catholic records are beginning to become available on scotlandspeople.
If only the 1841 census had had a bit more information on it. did they not know we would be looking a century and a half later #-o

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Hugo
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Re: Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

Post by Hugo » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:34 pm

Greetings Russell,

I should have said the information was taken from an image of the original on SP and they probably were Catholic.

I didn't know that Eaglesham was part of Abbey parish - that strengthens the possibility, and the surname variation is not a problem. However, the jump from Margaret to Mary seems a bit much but, as you say, could be explained by the enumerator mis-transcribing his notes.

I will probably 'claim' Margaret but make a note of my doubts.

Her parents will be almost impossible to trace, so that is another brick wall. Ooh, my head does hurt!

Thanks,
Hugo

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Re: Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

Post by AndrewP » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:15 am

Russell wrote:Eaglesham was certainly part of Abbey Parish then and was a weaving village.
Eaglesham was a parish in its own right, and going by the list of ministers in the church, there has been a church there from at least the 1380s. Mearns and Neilston parishes separated Eaglesham from Abbey.

http://www.eagleshamparishchurch.co.uk/ ... lder_id=30

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Re: Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

Post by Hugo » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:32 pm

Greetings Andrew,

Thanks for the gentle correction. It still leaves Margaret and John as possibly my relatives.

I wonder where their parents are.
Hugo

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Re: Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

Post by momat » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:42 am

Have you seen this ?
It is the Glasgow Town's Hospital 1941
Could the first set be the parents,

1841 Census
2 Records found


Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Census Place
DONNACHIE Ann F 30 Patient Inmate Servant Ireland Glasgow
DONNACHIE John M 30 Patient Inmate Ireland Glasgow


1851 Census
5 Records found

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Census Place
DONNACHIE Elizabeth Mother M F 50 Drainmaker's Lab's Wife Ireland - - Old Machar
DONNACHIE Elizabeth Sister U F 14 Flax Spinner Ireland - - Old Machar
DONNACHIE Mary Head W F 53 Agricultural Labourer Ireland - - Colmonell
DONNACHIE Mary Wife M F 24 Drainmaker's Lab's Wife Ireland - - Old Machar
DONNACHIE Thomas Son - M 1 East Lothian - Haddington Old Machar
Maureen

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Re: Could Mary Donnachie be Margaret Donachee?

Post by Hugo » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:16 am

Greetings Maureen,

Many, many thanks for you sugestions. I did not think to check hospitals records partly because I never done so before and would not know where to start looking.

I will think about this. I will probably claim them with the proviso that they are only 'possibles'.

I do know that Mary DONNACHIE married James DONACHIE about 1845 and appears with him in the 1851, 1861, 1871, and 1881 census for Ayrshire.

I remain impressed by your consideration and knowledge,
Hugo

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