Hello,
I've found mention of a Christopher Wishart on ancestry who appears to have arrived in New Brunswick, Canada during 1775. He is recorded in Donald Whyte's book 'A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada before Confederation - Volume 1" on page 429.
Does anyone have access to this publication (produced by the Ontario Genealogical Society) and if so would they mind having a wee look at page 429 for me?
Kind regards,
Scott
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Hi Scott,
If no one has the book, try looking it up in http://www.worldcat.org to see which libraries have it. I notice that there are lots of copies about, in the UK as well as in Canada and the US. For example, (noting your location) there is one in the British Library if you're ever going there for something else.
All the best,
Sarah
If no one has the book, try looking it up in http://www.worldcat.org to see which libraries have it. I notice that there are lots of copies about, in the UK as well as in Canada and the US. For example, (noting your location) there is one in the British Library if you're ever going there for something else.
All the best,
Sarah
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Hi Scooter
I'm sending a scan of the page by e-mail, along with an additional reference in another book.
Frances
I'm sending a scan of the page by e-mail, along with an additional reference in another book.
Frances
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hi scott - i ordered the cd's and they should be here within the week, will check it out for u
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Hi Scott - received the cd and the quote from page 429 is enclosed - was not sure how to attach it so have typed it out.
"12264 Wishart, Alexander. rel. to Christoipher W. qv to Miramichi, Northurmberland Co. NB, 1775
DC 4 Dec 1978"
"12266 Wishart, Christopher. To Miramichi, Northumberland Co.B 1175,. Relative to Alexander W.
M(1) Janet Bell, qv; (ii) Helen Milne, 1808 - 19 Sep 1843
DC 4 Dec 1978"
My research indicates that the brothers William and Alexander arrived in the Miramichi in 1775, Possibly under the auspices of a William Davidson(Godsman) who was bringing men from Scotland at the time to the Miramichi for his fishing and lumbering business. William was my great great great grandfather. William and Alexander fought in the Revoluntionary War in Quebec(Ontario)(1778 - 1783) I am continuing to research the Haldimand papers as well as trying to find out what ship they arrived on.
As to Christopher according to his monument he died 6 Jun 1853 at the age of 62 yrs making his date of birth 1791 in Dumfries. The Canada census of 1851 lists the same Christopher as 56 yrs. living in Newcastle(Miramichi) Janet Bell was Christopher's first wife, she is buried at Moorefield Cemetery and Helen Milne was his second wife and she shares the same monument as Christopher at S.James/St.John United Church in Newcastle.
As it stands "I am up in the air" as to which is which !! - confusion rains
regards dale
"12264 Wishart, Alexander. rel. to Christoipher W. qv to Miramichi, Northurmberland Co. NB, 1775
DC 4 Dec 1978"
"12266 Wishart, Christopher. To Miramichi, Northumberland Co.B 1175,. Relative to Alexander W.
M(1) Janet Bell, qv; (ii) Helen Milne, 1808 - 19 Sep 1843
DC 4 Dec 1978"
My research indicates that the brothers William and Alexander arrived in the Miramichi in 1775, Possibly under the auspices of a William Davidson(Godsman) who was bringing men from Scotland at the time to the Miramichi for his fishing and lumbering business. William was my great great great grandfather. William and Alexander fought in the Revoluntionary War in Quebec(Ontario)(1778 - 1783) I am continuing to research the Haldimand papers as well as trying to find out what ship they arrived on.
As to Christopher according to his monument he died 6 Jun 1853 at the age of 62 yrs making his date of birth 1791 in Dumfries. The Canada census of 1851 lists the same Christopher as 56 yrs. living in Newcastle(Miramichi) Janet Bell was Christopher's first wife, she is buried at Moorefield Cemetery and Helen Milne was his second wife and she shares the same monument as Christopher at S.James/St.John United Church in Newcastle.
As it stands "I am up in the air" as to which is which !! - confusion rains
regards dale
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Dear All,
Many thanks for your help with this. Dale, as we've now corresponded (unless you are another Dale?) I'm afraid there are even more questions - albeit in a positive fashion! I've made a note of everything you've told me and am convinced that the Christopher who died in 1853 is part of the tree I'm working on.
Best wishes, and thanks,
Scott
Many thanks for your help with this. Dale, as we've now corresponded (unless you are another Dale?) I'm afraid there are even more questions - albeit in a positive fashion! I've made a note of everything you've told me and am convinced that the Christopher who died in 1853 is part of the tree I'm working on.
Best wishes, and thanks,
Scott
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Hi Scott - hello from cold windy Halifax -there is a possibility that the parent of Christopher (John Wishart) could be a brother of my Alexander and William - thus the "cousin" previously mentioned - good luck - we seem to be a lot closer in this investigation - spoken as a former policeman
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As a matter of interest I have had difficulty in finding a reply to my initial posts bascially because I had looked in the wrong place and not in the above forum - thanks flyrod(dale)
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Hi Dale,
Any siblings of John would have been born on or after 1762, however I have found evidence that John's father (Andrew) was probably married before. John had a son William, although I've not found evidence of any 'Alexanders'. Having said that, there is another unproven line of the same tree stepping back two generations, and then forward, that contains a couple of Alexanders. It's quite confusing. I recently submitted a fifty-four page paper to the Wishart society concerning the Dumfriesshire Wisharts which is currently being looked at and expanded and enhanced. I shall let you know if they've managed to throw any further light on the connections.
Best,
SCott
Any siblings of John would have been born on or after 1762, however I have found evidence that John's father (Andrew) was probably married before. John had a son William, although I've not found evidence of any 'Alexanders'. Having said that, there is another unproven line of the same tree stepping back two generations, and then forward, that contains a couple of Alexanders. It's quite confusing. I recently submitted a fifty-four page paper to the Wishart society concerning the Dumfriesshire Wisharts which is currently being looked at and expanded and enhanced. I shall let you know if they've managed to throw any further light on the connections.
Best,
SCott
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Hi Dale:
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Hope this helps a bit,
Frances
The easiest way to find where you might have posted something, is to click on 'View your posts' which is to the left of the Forum page, just under the date and above the narrow blue banner. That will bring up all the sections where you have posted. You may then click on the one you wish to view fully.
There is also the option of searching with a little more detail. Directly under the wide blue banner at the top of the page, toward the left side of the page is 'Search'. If you click on 'Search' you will be offered more options and combinations for doing searches.
Hope this helps a bit,
Frances
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