Seeking any/all information regarding the following family:
Passenger list: S.S. Carpathia, Liverpool - Boston, USA, arrived 16 Feb 1913:
BELL
Mary Jane McIndoe (m.s. MARSHALL), age 54, widow, Race: Scottish, born England, destination Toronto, Ontario, occupation: Housekeeper in UK, intended occupation Housekeeper in Canada. (It is believed Mary died 1935 in Toronto).
Florence (Craddock), age 32, single, Race: Scottish, born England, destination Toronto, Ontario, occupation UK: Civil Service, occupation Canada: undecided.
Agnes (Effie), age 30 and 3/4, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination Toronto, occupation UK: Civil Service, occupation Canada: undecided.
William (Henry), age 29, single, lived in Toronto, Canada, for the last 10 years, born in England, shows he was a visitor to England previously, occupation Contractor. It is believed he arrived in Canada initially circa 1906.
Leonard (Charles), age 20, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination:Toronto, occupation: student in UK and undecided in Canada. [Leonard returned to Britain and enlisted in British Army 04 Sep 1915. His return certainly occured during period 16 Feb1913 - 04 Sep 1915. He retired a Brigadier, awarded Military Cross].
Gertrude (Mary), age 18, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation: Student in UK, will be student in Canada.
Cecil (Grenville/Granville), age 16, single, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation in UK: Student and will be student in Canada. (Enlisted Canadian Army, date unknown.)
Marjorie (Gertrude), age 14 and 10/12, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation in UK: Student and will be student in Canada.
Doris (Margaret), age 11 and a half, race: Scottish, born England, destination: Toronto, occupation in UK: Student and will be in Canada.
I have located marriages for William Henry (May 1914, York, Toronto), Cecil Grenville/Granville (Dec 1915, York, Toronto), Robert Allan (Jul 1913, York, Toronto), Richard T (should be Richard John, Feb 1907, Guelph, Toronto) but neither Births for the aforementioned Marriages nor Marriages for the sisters.
BELL family Liverpool - Boston, February 1913, SS Carpathia
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Re: BELL family Liverpool - Boston, February 1913, SS Carpat
Hello q98 and
Are you looking to go backwards as well as forwards in time? Just wondering whether you have the births, etc, in Scotland and England. Due to our cut-off times for discussion on the public forum, we might be able to find a few births for those marriages in the early years, but not all:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6601
If the sisters did marry, however, they would presumably have married early enough to post.
All the best,
Sarah
Are you looking to go backwards as well as forwards in time? Just wondering whether you have the births, etc, in Scotland and England. Due to our cut-off times for discussion on the public forum, we might be able to find a few births for those marriages in the early years, but not all:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6601
If the sisters did marry, however, they would presumably have married early enough to post.
All the best,
Sarah
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Re: BELL family Liverpool - Boston, February 1913, SS Carpat
My specific interest is Leonard Charles BELL and, as I have sufficient data on the remaining family members, moving forward with him.
Brigadier Leonard Charles BELL M.C.
DOB: 28 Dec 1891, Epping, Sussex
Death Registered: Dec Qtr 1976
Registration district: Hastings, East Sussex.
No Obituaries, Death or Funereal Notices, etc. were located in the Hastings Observer for Oct - Dec 1976. In the 1972 Street Directory, a Leonard C Bell was noted resident at Willow Lodge, Hastings Road, Battle.
Military Service:
Initially commissioned 05 Sep 1915 and awarded the Military Cross in 1917. Travelled to India Nov 1917 and attached to Indian Army 13 Jan 1918. Served with 12th (Kelat-i-Ghilzie) Pioneers. Lt. L.C. Bell, Black Watch probationer for Indian Army, reverted to British Service at own request and was posted to 2/4th Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment, w/e 21 Mar 1919.
Military Cross (M.C.)
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/ ... 86/page/37
Other Medals/Remarks listed/noted:
India General Service Medal and Clasp Afghanistan North West Frontier 1919
Emblems issued IV 656/ED.26.7.20 NW/5/4499
"Stated to have served in Afghan as Lieutenant Black Watch, Regimentally with 36th Div Coy (now "E" Div Signals) from 16-5-19 to 1-8-19. 100/Gen/7244".
I have the family in the following Census: 1861, 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911 and 1921 Canadian. Most of them emigrated to Canada via the U.S. onboard S.S.Carpathia, Liverpool - Boston, USA, arriving 16 February 1913. Leonard Charles BELL was noted on the Passenger Manifest, Age 20 Years. He returned to Britain some time during period Feb 1913 - Sep 1915, when he joined the British Army.
Irene BELL (b. 10 Nov 1914, York County d. 31 Mar 2008, Stayner, Simcoe County, Ontario, Age 93 Years) d/o Robert and
Esther (m.s. WINDER) BELL. Irene married John Henry WEECH (1914 - 1983) on 30 Aug 1940, Weston, York County, Ontario.
Searching from Australia, I am unable to locate any marriage or children for Brigadier Leonard C. BELL and would gratefully accept any assistance.
Brigadier Leonard Charles BELL M.C.
DOB: 28 Dec 1891, Epping, Sussex
Death Registered: Dec Qtr 1976
Registration district: Hastings, East Sussex.
No Obituaries, Death or Funereal Notices, etc. were located in the Hastings Observer for Oct - Dec 1976. In the 1972 Street Directory, a Leonard C Bell was noted resident at Willow Lodge, Hastings Road, Battle.
Military Service:
Initially commissioned 05 Sep 1915 and awarded the Military Cross in 1917. Travelled to India Nov 1917 and attached to Indian Army 13 Jan 1918. Served with 12th (Kelat-i-Ghilzie) Pioneers. Lt. L.C. Bell, Black Watch probationer for Indian Army, reverted to British Service at own request and was posted to 2/4th Battalion, Wiltshire Regiment, w/e 21 Mar 1919.
Military Cross (M.C.)
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/ ... 86/page/37
Other Medals/Remarks listed/noted:
India General Service Medal and Clasp Afghanistan North West Frontier 1919
Emblems issued IV 656/ED.26.7.20 NW/5/4499
"Stated to have served in Afghan as Lieutenant Black Watch, Regimentally with 36th Div Coy (now "E" Div Signals) from 16-5-19 to 1-8-19. 100/Gen/7244".
I have the family in the following Census: 1861, 1881, 1891, 1901, 1911 and 1921 Canadian. Most of them emigrated to Canada via the U.S. onboard S.S.Carpathia, Liverpool - Boston, USA, arriving 16 February 1913. Leonard Charles BELL was noted on the Passenger Manifest, Age 20 Years. He returned to Britain some time during period Feb 1913 - Sep 1915, when he joined the British Army.
Irene BELL (b. 10 Nov 1914, York County d. 31 Mar 2008, Stayner, Simcoe County, Ontario, Age 93 Years) d/o Robert and
Esther (m.s. WINDER) BELL. Irene married John Henry WEECH (1914 - 1983) on 30 Aug 1940, Weston, York County, Ontario.
Searching from Australia, I am unable to locate any marriage or children for Brigadier Leonard C. BELL and would gratefully accept any assistance.
q98929
Fremantle
Western Australia
Fremantle
Western Australia