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thomsos
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a little help

Post by thomsos » Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:05 am

I have a marriage of a Andrew Armstrong Thomson to Jean Mckendry 1967 Lanark/ Avondale, Andrew was born 1944 in Galston, I don't have any other info. is there any way I can find out anything to enable me to start a family tree, without sending for certificates.

Thanks
Sandra
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

AndrewP
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Re: a little help

Post by AndrewP » Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:33 pm

Hi Sandra,

As that info falls within the "modern records" era, you cannot download any certificates for them. Modern records are births within the last 100 years, marriages within the past 75 years and deaths within the past 50 years. The choices are for you (or someone on your behalf) to visit the ScotlandsPeople Centre, or one of its outposts around Scotland; or to send for official extracts from the certificates - a costly exercise. The modern records can be viewed like any other certificates in the SP Centre, but cannot be printed out or saved to a memory stick (if that option is re-allowed yet - withdrawn after a potential attack on their system a couple of months back).

All the best,

AndrewP

thomsos
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Re: a little help

Post by thomsos » Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:42 pm

Thank you Andrew,
Thats just what I thought, it was just wishful thinking on my part that someone would come up with something I hadn't thought of.
Researching- Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly, Anderson & Williamson from Bridgeton, also Thomson, Sharp, Bryce, Gillen & Fairley

Andersonic
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Re: a little help

Post by Andersonic » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:07 pm

In a reply by AndrewP to this topic I note the term "Or one of its outposts around Scotland" referring to "Scotlands People Centres. Could you tell me more about where these might be, and how one might utilise them, please? I enjoy actually going places where possible, and if at all practical, seeing original sources such as Parish Records

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Re: a little help

Post by AndrewP » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:51 pm

Hi Andersonic,

The ScotlandsPeople Centre is based in General Register House, at the east end of Princes Street in Edinburgh. In the most part it is digital images you will see there, the same as found on the ScotlandsPeople website. The main difference is that the modern records can be viewed there, almost up to date (usually up to a few months back; awaiting the auditor's acceptance of the records coming in from the registration offices around the country), and time to have the records scanned and put on the system. If a record is illegible or badly scanned, then for the censuses and the statutory records (primarily births, marriages and deaths), you can ask to view the original paper record. This is available for most of the day, but not too close to the end of the day, as time has to be allowed for the book to be retrieved, for you to study the page, and for the book to be returned to its shelf before the end of the working day.

This service is not available for the OPRs (Old Parochial Records) as these are considered to be too fragile for the public to handle. The staff used to be able to look at these on your behalf, but I don't know if this is still the case. I have a feeling that these, like many of the church records (such as Kirk Session records) are sealed after being digitised. The sealed records are sealed in a protective covering, and are normally moved to NRS's environmentally controlled storage facility at Thomas Thomson House, on the outskirts of Edinburgh. I think opening of these records would only be if they were required for some legal process, not for the likes of us studying our family trees.

In the ScotlandsPeople outposts around Scotland, these records are available for onscreen viewing only. The original records are not at these outposts. These sites are listed on the NRS website. Click on the link below.

http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/l ... ry-centres

General Register House, as well as being the main base for the ScotlandsPeople Centre, holds many other records, formerly belonging to the National Archives of Scotland (NAS). Many of these are on paper, although the digitising process is working its way through them too. To search in General Register House, beyond the ScotlandsPeople Centre, you need to have a reader's ticket. When you first arrive you need the appropriate formal identification to be issued a reader's ticket. It has a 3 year lifespan - mine is long out of date. Click on the links below for more info.

http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/v ... ers-ticket
http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/v ... earch-room

All the best,

AndrewP