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Patsy
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New Upgrade

Post by Patsy » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:16 am

Hello
I have had my problems with the site but what a buzz to go online today and see the new upgrade. I'm thrilled the delete button is back on the previous search list I can now get rid of testaments and names who are not related, my search lists will come way down. :) Plus the addition of the census header.
Well done SP, a form coming your way to thank you. I have the opportunity to complain so a wee thank you doesn't hurt either :wink:

Patsy

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:17 pm

Patsy

Not just GROS/SP but also the influence of the SP User Group :!:

David

also a SP User Group member ............

sheilajim
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Post by sheilajim » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:15 am

Hi Patsy & David

Census Header :!:

I looked at my censuses and couldn't find any header. :cry:

Sheila
Sheila

JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:26 am

Hi Sheila

When you select a census search that you've already purchased and then select an image you have already viewed (this is the cheap way to test this!!!) the full page census comes up there is a blue button above a little to the right that says "View Header" or something like that....anyhow click on the button and up pops the title of the cenus you are presently viewing....to make it disappear you reclick on the same blue button. If this isn't coming up for you then you have prob...

Hope this helps
Jean

Patsy
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Post by Patsy » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:38 am

DavidWW wrote:Patsy

Not just GROS/SP but also the influence of the SP User Group :!:

David

also a SP User Group member ............
David you are so right I should have included the User group, I have just read the minutes of the last meeting and it's obvious that the User group plays a big part in the proceedings. Now I think I know why I finally got a reply to my emails :wink:
Thank you.....

Patsy

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:39 am

Patsy wrote:
DavidWW wrote:Patsy

Not just GROS/SP but also the influence of the SP User Group :!:

David

also a SP User Group member ............
David you are so right I should have included the User group, I have just read the minutes of the last meeting and it's obvious that the User group plays a big part in the proceedings. Now I think I know why I finally got a reply to my emails :wink:
Thank you.....

Patsy
Three of the UG are regulars here and we tend to pick up on situations where someone is not getting the level of service they should be receiving !

And it's quite amazing how quick the reaction can be when a UG member considers that it's a case for an email to SoL/SP :wink:

David

WilmaM
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Post by WilmaM » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:59 am

Well done \:D/

At last common sense has won the day - Thank you - User Group :!:
Wilma

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:09 pm

WilmaM wrote:Well done \:D/

At last common sense has won the day - Thank you - User Group :!:
We dae wir best, ken :!:

The minutes are very much written in civil servese, and it needs to be understood and appreciated that it's a bit like the picture of the swan floating along serenely on the surface, but underneath there's a heckuva lot of paddling going on.

The full flavour of a lot of the detailed discussion over a 2 hour long or more meeting just doesn't come through in the minutes, - for example, at the last meeting GROS/SoL got an absolute roasting in terms of yet further delays in the availability of the remaining censuses.

In between meetings there are regular email exchanges between UG members and GROS/SoL, individual and group when appropriate, - for instance, just recently there have been some quite acerbic emails on the subject of advice to SP members seeking the identity of institutions in the censuses available online :shock: , but I believe that little or no purpose would be served by such emails being sent in the full public gaze of every SP member. In fact, I very strongly believe that such an approach would be totally counter-productive.

There's been a couple of occasions since the launch of the User Group when I've felt like throwing in the towel, but have always come round to the point of view that it's better to take the aggro and continue, along with my fellow UG members, to be the piece of grit in the oyster that leads to the occasional production of a pearl :!:

Part of the aggro is not being fully free to disclose info that is given to UG members in confidence by GROS and/or SoL (ScotlandonLine, the operator of SP). Along with that goes uninformed, and quite personally nasty criticism of the UG by a small number of folk out there, some of whom don't even pay UK income tax, but still free to write to the Registrar General hissel, as well as the Scottish Executive minister responsible for GROS, on a regular basis. That such repeated contacts and misguided "campaigns" are totally counter productive seems to be totally impossible to get these puir folk to comprehend :!:

It's a fine balance at times to judge between what is best for the future of SP, and what could be best in the immediate present for members to understand why various things are and aren't happening. For instance, UG members knew of the upgrades instituted earlier this week at the last UG meeting, but weren't fully sure of the timescale, and were active in testing these various upgrades last week, but still, at that point, weren't fully informed in terms of the date for their implementation.

I now have a pretty good idea of when the 1861 census index and images will come on line at SP, but, no how, no way, am I going to go public with a prediction for 1861, never mind 1851 and 1841. :roll: Been there, lost the T-shirt, still bear the still painful scars 8-[

David

sheilajim
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Post by sheilajim » Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:29 am

Hi Jean

Thanks, I found it. I was looking at some 1881 Census, and I guess that they don't have them there. :D

Thanks Again.

To David

Not even the teensiest, weensiest little hint. :wink:

Sheila
Sheila

scooter
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Post by scooter » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:57 am

Hi David,

Would the promise of a macaroon bar change your mind?

Best,

Scott
Researching Wishart (Glasgow & Kirkcaldy), McDonald (Donegal & Falkirk), Thomson (Star, Fife) & Harley (Monimail, Moonzie & Cupar)